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It's a sort of pop album, some of it, although 'Discipline' is hardly a pop song! That was something I looked up to at the time, and it was inspirational, I guess. I wasn't really thinking of it that way, I was just a fan and enjoyed it. Their single, 'United', was very beautiful, and I've always admired Gen [Genesis P-Orridge] from the early days of COUM Transmissions.

I was a fortunate art student, in that I knew about COUM Transmissions. I followed him the whole way, and I was so fortunate to meet him about ten years ago. He remains a hero to me, in the way he lives his life as an act of imagination. He seems to have immense courage and dedication to living life as a magical act. I don't care about it being groundbreaking electronic music or anything, that doesn't matter to me at all. I just find the atmosphere, the will and the intent behind it to be really beautiful.

Were you drawn to the confrontational aspect of their music?

I don't think it was confrontational, I think it was insistent upon making something happen at the moment, and if people liked it, they did, and if not, fuck them. It's a simple notion that Swans has always had. People have always assumed it was confrontational, but it wasn't really that. It was extreme, but not an attack on anyone.