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Bleak Psychedelia: Michael Gira Of Swans' Favourite Albums
Joseph Burnett , November 13th, 2012 06:56

Michael Gira's mighty Swans play live at London's Koko this Thursday, 15th November. In advance of the show, Joseph Burnett speaks to the man himself about thirteen of his favourite albums, from Miles Davis and Gorecki to Throbbing Gristle and Pink Floyd

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Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks

That's an album that I come back to every five years I guess, and listen to obsessively, and then don't listen to for a long time. I haven't listened to it for quite some time right now but it's been important to me throughout my life. I can't pontificate on its value, culturally, but to me it's just had a lot of resonance in personal situations I've been in.

I recall listening to that album when I was peripatetic at one time, driving around in my van across America, sleeping in state parks -this was in the mid-to-late 90s - just driving around. I'd escaped where I was and just spent several months by myself, cooking food on my propane burner at night, drinking a six pack, going to bed and then driving again in the morning. I remember driving through Montana in a pretty torrential rain, listening to this album and just crying, weeping. It was one of those moments where an album just kind of conjoins exactly to the circumstances of your life. Does it give you hope? I don't know, but it's just such a beautiful record. It's so extreme and heartfelt, so I guess it gives you hope in that way.

Of course, it has really quiet, beautiful moments like 'Buckets of Rain' and 'You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go'. 'Idiot Wind' is the infamous one because it has this really wonderful line "We're idiots babe/It's a wonder we even know how to breathe". It's a break-up song. I don't think you can get any better than that, I think it's one of Dylan's best. It's not really groundbreaking in any way, because it's a work of art, except for that stupid-ass song 'Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts'. It's like this goofy moment that ruins the whole album! [laughs]. I try to edit out the fact that it's his "most personal record", because I don't really care about his personal. It has to some meaning to other people too. Maybe because it's so personal is why it's so universal. I don't know.