It’s raw and has an incredible live feel but the style itself is so fresh. It’s like, wow, Gang Of Four and dub and The Clash and Minor Threat and a great merging of them. That’s what really killed me about this album. I just came from Europe then and still listening to Joy Division and The Fall and Gang Of Four but this wasn’t like American punk; it was more straight ahead. This was an American band that knows all the European and Jamaican stuff. I’m listening to it because all the basslines are so good; they’re a bit heavy but not too much, you know? It has a lot of dynamics and the lyrics are delivered in a way that the vocals and the band merges; probably the best I ever heard. It’s so together and everything sits in the right place.

Years later I met Ian [MacKaye] and now it’s always great to see him and I went to all the places where they recorded these records and they were like basements and a tiny place with a wooden ceiling where they were recording and there was a lot of eye contact, obviously. You can tell in the music.

I love the whole thing about Fugazi; I love the lyrics – they’re some of the most intelligent lyrics to have appeared in rock. Also, they went on to make a lot of great albums but this one will always stick out because it was like art hardcore. That’s what I needed then – that was the vitamins I needed!