Swans – 'Screenshot'
This is a really fantastic groove isn't it? And where Michael Gira is coming from isn't where people think. A lot of the time he's coming out of black music and funk, and this track is a funk groove. He's such a great bass player anyway but that rhythm section – oh! It's a really heavy, repetitive, eight-minute groove and it's a fantastic piece of work.

It's a real understanding of the power of the groove. Going back to early Swans, there was a real groove to that but on the one level it was really heavy and really industrial, but on the other it's so groovy. It's down to the thrust and again, it goes back to the fuck. Those early songs were very sexual.