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Futuremania: Retro Goes Cold Turkey In 2011
Charlie Frame , December 20th, 2011 03:51

In today's Wreath Lecture Charlie Frame argues that retro is soon to be a thing of the past

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“In the early '70s there were at least ten albums released every week that were fantastic. Now you're lucky to find ten albums a year of that quality. And there are more albums released each week now than there were then.” - Elton John, 2007

“The variation of music that young people are listening to now… it's just the same beat with a different melody on top...I think it's getting a bit samey-samey… it needs a bit of a change-up again.” – Kian Egan (Westlife), 2011

“Antony Carmichael, you now have 30 seconds to give us your Music 2000. Good luck…” – Peter Serafinowicz (Look Around You), 2005

In the bookending chapters of Retromania (Simon Reynolds’ 450-page exploration into the culture of retro, released earlier this year), concerns are raised over the current musical landscape and its fixation on the past. Reynolds opines that pop has become inspirationally bankrupt in this last decade, turning out an endless procession of revivals and rehashes instead of surging forth into the future. He compares the big stylistic revolutions of sixties psychedelia, seventies punk, eighties hip-hop and nineties rave with today’s smaller incremental shifts, and wonders when (if ever) we might get to see such grand evolutionary steps taking place again.

Cynicism, realism or just plain codgery - where you stand on the retromania debate boils down to your own experiences and tastes, of course. All the same, Reynolds’ rhetoric has drawn as much controversy as it has praise. The aim of this Wreath Lecture isn’t to add fuel to the ongoing dissection of Retromania’s argument. My own feeling is that Reynolds puts paid to his critics’ misgivings within the book itself, if not in further interviews. As a history of pop it’s a fascinating read whichever side of the fence you sit and sceptics are more than encouraged to give it a try. The book does make one unassailable point, however: the first decade of the 21st century was largely characterised by revivalist scenes based on the repackaging of old ideas. But more recent developments this year suggest that Retromania could well represent a closing chapter in pop’s history. I’m of the opinion that 2011 will be remembered as a pivotal year in which our love affair with retro began to fade and a resurging interest in the new and now was rekindled.

Taking a look through the 2011 end of year lists, there’s an overall sense of purging, of rejuvenation and indeed progress that hasn’t been present for quite some time. And while we’re not quite speeding away from it just yet, the decade that brought us electroclash, nu-rave, emo, freak-folk and the ‘New Rock Revolution’ (certainly the biggest music journo oxymoron in history) doesn’t feel so recent anymore. Nobody asked for a nineties guitar-pop revival this year, but the call was answered all the same and met with all-round indifference. Oh hey, Viva Brother – how’s conquering the world going for you?

With a whole generation of young musicians now having been raised around club and dance music, electronica is no longer seen as a futuristic frontier. Today’s listeners are as familiar with synthesisers and beats as they are guitars, and blending these is now fairly standard practice rather than a novelty. The rock acts thriving best today are comfortable with this fact, harnessing electronic sounds and ideas when it suits them rather than trying to force a loveless marriage. This means that artists like St. Vincent or Battles can hone their unique styles through mixed media, incorporating drums that sound like samples and guitars that sound like synths (and vice versa, of course). Rock isn’t dead at all – it’s simply adapting to new ears.

The retro-fetishism of ‘80s synth pop and electro-house in the 2000s helped in some way to make electronic sounds more saleable to distrusting rock audiences. We’re past that point now. Rockism is an old man’s sport, the internet age having pretty much dissolved the tribal boundaries that once existed between rock, pop, dance, hip-hop, commercial and underground music. With access to an iPod and an internet connection, there's no reason you can't listen to any style of music. We’ve never felt more at ease with eclecticism. It was with open-arms that Glastonbury welcomed Beyoncé on opening her headline set, not with the question ‘Are you ready to rock?’, but rather ‘Are you ready to be entertained?’ Skrillex’s brand of buzzsaw mosh-dance has seen US hardcore and metal fans donning day-glo for the first time and raving it up to purely synthetic music in packed-out stadiums. The UK has always boasted a much longer-standing history of rock-friendly electronic bands, like the Prodigy and the Chemical Brothers. But in 2011 it’s no longer necessary for DJs and dance acts to meet such prescribed criteria in order to make that crossover. Today’s audiences are no longer defined by their allegiance to the gig or the club venue – one typically leading to the other on a night out.

Today’s young vanguard are equally at ease with the internet as a musical tool and medium. The playlist at house parties can now be dictated by live streams beamed directly from multiple guests’ smartphones, spelling an end to stereo-squabbles and increased exposure to others’ tastes and influences. The multi-disciplined teen-hydra Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All transcend mere rap collectivism with their internet-savvy and idiosyncratic approach to music and media. A case in point would be the video for Tyler’s ‘Yonkers’, which managed to do in three minutes what the whole of his album tried to in 74, and whose viral distribution via internet channels was largely responsible for the masses of hype surrounding Odd Future at the start of this year. The likes of Skrillex or even Odd Future may not be to everyone’s tastes, but at least their detractors can’t complain about them being derivative. This new eclecticism isn’t the same bland melting pot of past influences, plucked, stewed and regurgitated as per Retromania. It’s a vivid technicolour tapestry of ideas. You can’t even call it genre-hopping any more, it just is. And so long as it keeps moving in the right direction, this will continue to be a positive force for future music.

The extant UK dance scene has been central to spurring on new music. It’s been fascinating to watch the exponential rise and mutation of dubstep over the last decade. From its beginnings as a humble offshoot of 2-step and grime, dubstep evolved into the huge, ubiquitous force we know today. Who would have thought that the dark, ebbing frequencies first heard at specialist nights like FWD>> would eventually have found their place at the top of the charts? Reynolds upholds dubstep as an exception to the rule in Retromania, but dismisses efforts from Magnetic Man and Tinchy Stryder as “watered-down crossovers into chart-pop terrain”. In the short time since this passage was written however, we’ve witnessed the emergence of dubstep across the pop board. The best example of this can be found on Katy B’s On A Mission – the definition of a UK bass-pop gem and one of the first successful crossover records of its kind. She is at once well respected by the underground and adored by pop’s mainstream. And although elements of trance, rave and breakbeat feature prominently, Katy’s mission in question is clearly to accelerate away from the past - influences absorbed, but never flouted. Unlike the preceding Magnetic Man album on which she featured, it doesn’t feel like a token attempt to cut & shut dubstep with pop music. It’s a celebration of UK bass from the bottom-up, harnessing that heavy modern sound to fit her own unique songwriting talents.

Far from slowing down, dubstep and its bass music offshoots are still evolving and reinventing themselves at an alarming rate. Labels like Night Slugs and Hessle Audio are continuing to release records that defy categorisation, the loose, sub-bass heavy template a seemingly bottomless well of inspiration. Bass music now incorporates a spectrum ranging from Shackleton’s atmospheric sound-sculptures to the punchy, synth-laden maximalism of Rustie and Damu.

But those looking to explore even wilder frontiers need only look to the US, and the rise of footwork - a great-grandchild of the original Chicago house scene which, like dubstep, started life as a subterranean version of a more popular style. It may have been in incubation since at least the late nineties, but to most ears the genre’s herky-jerk rhythms, lo-tech production and competitive dancing culture are at odds with pretty much anything we’ve come to see in dance music so far. The recent attention brought on by a series of albums and the influential Bangs & Works compilations on the British Planet Mu label (as well as by dubstep-footwork hybrid man Addison Groove) has seen high praise from commentators such as Reynolds, who speaks in interviews about its “jaw-drop” effect.

Listening – and dancing – to footwork feels like discovering a remote Galápagoan species that has evolved in a vacuum since the early days of house and techno, away from the influence of other dance trends. Named after the freestyle breaky-legged dance performed in Chicago basements and gym-spaces, footwork eschews kickdrums (one of the key percussive elements in house/techno derived dance music), opting for a flurry of erratic snares, toms and rapidfire samples, underpinned by booming sub-bass. Scene stalwarts including DJs Spinn and Rashad are now making waves in Europe - at high volume, away from its comparative strangeness on headphones, footwork has been delighting rather than baffling clubbers. Relative newcomers such as Young Smoke, T-Why and Jlin are pushing the style into even stranger territories. Footwork has proven to be unlike anything we’ve really seen in dance music before. The fact that this once very isolated scene is now infecting outwards bodes well for the future. With a number of albums this year influenced by the genre, by global adopters including Machinedrum, Sully and Africa Hitech, it’s only a matter of time until footwork gains much wider currency.

The world has seen an immeasurable amount of change in only the last twelve months – from the rise of the Tory-led government, the Arab spring, student protests, the Fukushima disaster, the killing of Bin-Laden and Gadaffi, the phone-hacking scandal and subsequent collapse of the News of the World, the England riots, the Occupy movement, not to mention the growing concerns over global economic collapse – there’s no denying we’re far from the pre-credit crunch era of housing booms and relative social stability. Art, music and youth culture are directly affected. There is no longer the same space for the privileged, vintage-toting, apolitical, hipster figure that came to define youth culture in the last decade. Music, as a reflection of public mood, has to galvanise itself in order to fit the changing perspectives of its audience. This doesn’t necessarily mean a return to protest music in the sixties sense of the word (God knows we don’t need any more Frank Turners), but maybe a sense of progress, of movement and action is required in these new, visceral times. Sassy post-modernism comes off as a rather shallow aesthetic when the rent’s overdue and all the shops down the road have had their windows smashed in. No wonder it was PJ Harvey’s topical Let England Shake that made the most impact on critical lists this year.

As long as there's comfort to be gained and money to be made from nostalgia, retro will always exist. It would be dangerous to abandon the past altogether – pop history is far too rich and plentiful to be ignored outright. But pop is far from eating itself. It would be impossible to cover all the ways in which new music is thriving in 2011. I haven’t even had the chance to touch on the innovations in hip-hop and R&B this year, with Death Grips and Shabazz Palaces representing only a pinch of what’s new and exciting in this arena. It may be some time before we see the kind of seismic movement yearned for by Simon Reynolds in Retromania – but if there is one, it may already be here: we just haven’t realised yet. Rave music wasn’t the product of someone taking a pill and inventing the TB303 one night while everyone else sat about listening to The Smiths. Similarly, post-punk came from a large number of permutations and external influences over a very disparate range of scenes and subcultures, with kids reworking disco and funk licks to suit their own art-school tendencies.

The fact that there are now so many avenues to explore, (or as The Quietus’s Luke Turner puts it in his Wreath Lecture: “the continued shattering of our culture”), means a unified paradigm shift is even less likely to happen in 2011. But with the kind of impact that can come out of the slow development and subsequent explosion of original styles like dubstep and footwork, it’s clear we can still achieve enough momentum to push through those retromanic tendencies and use these new ideas to fuel and define the future.

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Dec 20, 2011 10:03am

So, music based on technology (fundamentally but not exculusively) i.e electronica/dance is going to be ok.
Are those who choose to use tuned/acoustic instruments to be a side-note in history as of now?
Obviously I don't think so, and I'm not suggesting that you guys do too. I think perhaps though it will be even more interesting to note how 'traditional' music forms have or have not evolved.

What 'traditional' (for want of a better word) artists do you feel are clearly progressive from this year or last? Merely interested.

I guess no-one can really comment until that new Mumford & Son's is out, then we can see how music as a whole has progressed.

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Dec 20, 2011 10:14am

It's also worth asking, how are we judging 'retroness' here
I do believe for the most part, most of this constant retro-icity is thanks to and based purely upon the production choices of the artists. Does the 2000's have its own harmonic signature?
As Elton John said there were seemingly more 'classic' albums released in the past and as much as I hate to easily admit it - why on earth does if feel true. A million factors ultimately

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Charlie Frame
Dec 20, 2011 10:26am

Hey Bobe, that's a very important question. One of my very favourite records to come out this year was 'Diamond Mine' by Jon Hopkins & King Creosote. It has a technological element to it, but it's largely an acoustic folk album based on traditional instrumentation. Still, I don't hear much "retro" in there (in the hip-revivalist sense of the word) - homeliness, longing, a sense of place and time, yes - but it's still a very forward-thinking album that doesn't appear to rely on past influences for its main point of inspiration.

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Rich M
Dec 20, 2011 11:00am

In reply to Bobe:

But we've all grown up being told about the classic albums of the sixties, seventies and latterly the 80s. Barring a few exceptions the classification process has only just begun on music from the 90s... This year I've seen "20 years on" articles about Levelling the Land, Screamadelica, Nevermind. And this is only going to continue, 2013 is going to be the 50th anniversary of the Beatles, then there'll no doubt be Britpop: 20 years on. 20 years of drum and bass. 40 years of punk. And most chillingly of all, 20 glorious years of Coldplay.

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Dec 20, 2011 11:04am

There was retro music in the seventies and eighties, but it never managed to sound exactly like the eras it was emulating, due to fundamental differences in the way stuff was recorded etc.

Been amazed by the eighties 'influenced' stuff I've heard on the blogosphere recently. If it wasn't for the total lack of songwriting ability, you'd swear some of it WAS from the eighties. No difference in sound whatsoever.

That in itself feels kinda like retro eating itself.

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Dec 20, 2011 11:42am

In reply to Rich M:

I guess that is true - for whatever personal reasons, I haven't deemed any albums 'classic' since the eighties. I grew up in the 90's and no albums felt musically as strong or resonant to me musically or even in any contextual way - so I found myself much more moved by the music of the seventies. It could be that I 'got into jazz' too early, and it ruined everything else.
Also Will, I agree with your "If it wasn't for the total lack of songwriting ability". It shouldn't be true, but it is. For example, Bon Ivor - THE artist of 2011 (for alot of people) doesn't write music that I call powerful, or in any way objectively 'timeless' i.e classic. No comparison to singer/songwriter types who were equally as successful in their time - i.e Joni Mitchell, Dylan.
Everything now contains an 'advert sheen' of reverb/harmony comfort which only satisfies on a momentary or 'pleasing' aural level. I can't formulate answers really, just know how it 'modern music' feels, or rather.
On a personal note, the only music that I find coming out of these modern times with any great strength are dark ambient artists, like Svarte Greiner & Kreng. Perhaps it's BECAUSE they are so far removed from 'traditional' styles. But then, how 'new' is dark massive noise?

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Dec 20, 2011 12:27pm

The notion of retroactively applying a label...or forecasting one is, in itself, a post-modern condition in which we are all too overly obsessed. If we are to admire the marked evolutions of psychedelia, punk, hip-hop, rave, etc. it is because their inventions were as much culturally based as they were a conglomeration and interpretation of previous musical influences. In other words, the music was an expression of the political or cultural beliefs swirling around at that time.

I see much of this retro-influenced music sonically compelling, but lacking substance for its inability to take a stake in its own time and say something about our world at the moment. Everybody I talk to about this wants to hold up Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" as an example of how they overcame this deficit. Lyrical and emotional content, perhaps. Musically, its horribly pedantic and other words, it still doesn't go far enough.

In the "continued shattering of our culture" I wonder if we will ever could have a large enough collective of musicians exploring cultural themes through sound....when there is no particular culture to comment about.....

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Dec 20, 2011 12:55pm

C'mon, that Odd Future track is straight retro: a slug of MF Doom, a dash of Neptunes, perhaps a nod back to The Pharcyde or someone. I quite like it, but partly because it reminds me of being young at the turn of the millennium!

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Dec 20, 2011 12:58pm

In reply to JZ:

Interesting and right.
I think that perhaps artists feel 'unable' to address the cultural issues of today, because today's culture is a sprawling flat plain of micro-cultures. Sounds like actual biology
Lyrics though, can and will always be interpreted in ways that seem to reflect society, whether they were intended that way or not.
I don't hate modern music, but everything that seems to come out feels lite or more temporary than things from previous years.

If I am able to go some way to digest all this stuff - does it mean that my band makes the most compelling modern music known today

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str8 bro
Dec 20, 2011 12:58pm

what a horrible, clunky, laboured piece of writing, this'd put laurie penny to shame. love the way you crowbarred the riots and the tories in there, too. make it more relevant 'n shit, yeah?

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Dec 20, 2011 1:11pm

I think it’s been a nice enough but relatively weak year for new music. But I also think things are about to pick up, and records like Rustie’s show that you can come up with something fresh and vital in the midst of so many options. It’s not been much commented upon, but his stuff’s partly the product of having a local scene to develop a sound in, which is one way to escape the curatorial, bedroom boy approach to picking and mixing.

One paradox about retro is that the more archived culture people have access to, the more they tend to look back at revolutionary moments like punk and long for another one. But that same pile-up of treasures and awareness prevents that year zero thing from happening. You used to get people carving out Nostradamus-like predictions about how the new revolution comes every 7, 10 or 11 years and we must be due one soon, while the best music was being made in places they weren’t watching! (i.e. not in Classic Album form.)

Hardly any musicians approach music in Reynolds-friendly terms – innovation’s usually accidental or at least intuitive – but the context they operate in definitely shapes what they do. There’s a lot of cultural shifting worldwide at the moment, and that’s bound to have some creative effect. I hope the proliferation of intangible stuff – whether old records or all-pervasive, bland entertainment – has reached the point where you have to find new ways to operate: you can’t just pick out some readymades without boring even yourself, so you need to show some more character.

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Lucia Lanigan
Dec 20, 2011 1:13pm

In reply to :

(That was me, btw - forgot to log in)

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Dec 21, 2011 5:06am

"Music back in my day lad was always so much more tuneful than that racket you listen to" - Shocker.

I reckon the Death Grips album will be a classic in times to come.

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Dec 22, 2011 2:41pm

@str8 bro: "what a horrible, clunky, laboured piece of writing..."

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Dec 22, 2011 3:18pm

In reply to unimax:

(Once again...)
@str8 bro: "what a horrible, clunky, laboured piece of writing..."

I agree 100%. More blog writers should be called on this. And I don't buy the "Hey, I blog for free!" defense, either. The above article (without a hint of irony) contains the all the hallmarks of a throw-away, cobbled-together "retro" project; a desperately self-conscious exploration of ideas and themes that serve only to puff up the creator. Writers who flail about trying to "grasp" and "name" things that are already part of a wider culture are numerous these days, and their aimless blather has become a surrogate for style and/or substance.
It's worth mentioning that classic albums -- from all eras -- are (usually) created by artists who are madly obsessed with their craft, and willing to pursue new ideas. These artists are dedicated, and they put in the hours to earn their keep, whether they end up rich and famous or not. Sad that with all of their creativity and effort in pushing music forward, their music serves only as riffing fodder for articles like the above...

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Jan 19, 2012 11:07am

Surely Retromania was the weakest of Simon Reynolds books so far. It seemed patchy and rushed with the vast number of pages making up for a rather messy arguement. The most interesting and effective parts were those that basically described retro at it's most extreme and pathetic such as the eyewitness account of the New York Dolls show or the visit to the grim rock museum or the grown man who re-united all his school friends and insisted they re-enact a typical school day from 1960-something. If it had stuck to that kind of thing it would have been a slimmer but more coherent book. What bogged it down was the business of trying to figure out where retro maybe it didn't start anywhere in particular after all isn't nostalgia like so many other things perfectly natural and healthy just so long as it's not excessive? Also Reynolds seems reluctant to differentiate between music informed by the past (which is inevitable) and stuff that really is retro (avoidable) - ticking off Paul Weller for using Motown style chord sequences even though for some people The Jam were very much the sound of 1980 as it actually was.

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Mar 10, 2015 8:26pm

Well, 4 years later, this looks pretty much like he got that one completely wrong...

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