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"Rock & Roll Has Nothing To Do With Lists": Luke Haines' Favourite Albums
Luke Turner , November 5th, 2011 14:18

Ahead of his appearance at our Klub Gutenberg next week, Luke Turner talks to Luke Haines about his favourite 13 albums

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The Fall – Totale's Turns
The three Fall albums I love are Dragnet, Totale's Turns and Grotesque. I'd say Grotesque is the best album, way above Hex Enduction Hour, but I picked Totale's Turns. It was the second Fall album I ever heard; the first was a vinyl compilation of early Fall, 77-79, which came out in about 1980. A friend's older brother at school who was into Crass and Killing Joke was into The Fall. It was quite a big deal getting a friend's older brother who was perceived to be cool to tape you something, but he taped me that and I fell in love with it. I used to get my mum and dad to get me records for Christmas, and when I was about 14 the two albums I got from them were LA Woman by the Doors and Totale's Turns, which I proceeded to play on their gramophone. That was quite good, playing Totale's Turns on the gramophone with your parents. My parents had me when they were older, they were in their late 40s or 50s at the time, and they had no interest in music at all. They liked Matt Munro and Perry Como, the Beatles hadn't touched them because they were a bit past that generation, and they thought Elvis and rock & roll was bad stuff. They thought Frank Sinatra was a bit edgy. Even though I haven't listened to Totale's Turns for about 15 years, I can hear the way it starts up: "we are northern white crap that talks back…", I can remember all those bits in between songs. I thought it was a brilliant album when I was 14, and I don't know why. I remember even at that age being blown away by things like 'Spector Vs Rector', even though that's the less hardcore version, because he says on it "we're breaking it in easy for you". I love all the stuff where he's shouting at the band, which obviously had some influence on events to come. I still buy all their new albums, and I think the run they've had since the turn of the 21st Century has been way better than the 90s and most of the 80s, I didn't like the Brix period at all. Steve Hanley said something like "oh we had to change else it would have been five miserable blokes from Manchester doing 'And This Day' for 15 minutes", I said 'no! that's good! Do it even longer'. Now, even though the records are good and there's a progression, he's stripping it all away, the decline in his lyrics is pretty noticeable from those four albums, and Hex as well. The Roman Totale, and the whole mythology of that, I loved the sleevenotes and the cover, wherever it was, Bradford, Preston, and the fact that he concluded the Roman Totale mythology by using his yet-unborn son Joe Totale on 'The North Will Rise Again'. Those first four albums were incredible. I first saw him when I was about 14, probably in Portsmouth, and he had that shamanic thing, and that seems to be a thing of the past.


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TonyBadgers
Nov 3, 2011 9:06pm

Best Baker's Dozen yet. By a mile. Hilarious. Won't be rushing to buy the Sabbath album any time soon.

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Rooksby
Nov 3, 2011 9:46pm

I concur. Best Baker's Dozen yet. Thank God SOMEBODY else considers Grotesque the best Fall LP to date, I was beginning to think I was mental. And that 1-sentence summation of Zappa nails him completely. Mr Haines, I salute you!

p.s. Isn't it about time The Quietus interviewed Mick Farren? Better still, get him on board...

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manish
Nov 4, 2011 2:12am

Bang on! Agree about The Doors, more or less dig of all these choices - massive respect for including Sabotage and Captain Lockheed - very much looking forward to the Old Queen's Head gig...

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Nov 4, 2011 10:01am

In reply to manish:

F**KING HELL those F**CKING Ads with sound/film trailers are F**CKING ANNOYING if you're trying to listen to music while reading this.....

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Rooksby
Nov 4, 2011 10:25am

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Haha, whatever happened to SUBLIMINAL advertising, eh?

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Illustrated NME Encyclopedia of Rock 1978
Nov 4, 2011 11:00am

It's Larry Wallis not Wallace.

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Luke Turner
Nov 4, 2011 12:44pm

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Are you sure? They're all set to be silent unless activated, I've check on three browsers and I'm not getting automatic sound at all. Which ad was it?

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Rich M
Nov 4, 2011 4:19pm

I've got the exact same mirror as Mr Haines. There's a thing.

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tufflifeboogie
Nov 6, 2011 7:47pm

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's Larry Wallis, not Wallace!

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tufflifeboogie
Nov 6, 2011 8:06pm

just seen someone had already pointed that out, sorry!

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HughieD
Nov 7, 2011 3:38pm

Fascinating read that. Is it me - or is there only 12 LPs? Am I missing something?

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Bewlay
Nov 7, 2011 3:49pm

It's Larry Wallis! Not Larry Wallace!

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Christopher McDonnell
Nov 8, 2011 2:58am

Loved reading this! The backstory on the discovery of each album as well as the ability to both love and find fault with the records/artists was just great. More Luke Haines on The Quietus please!

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Shaun Rogan
Nov 25, 2011 1:55pm

I didnt realise how many records I love and own would find their way onto Haines list. He is right about the Doors as well, nothing wrong with a bit of bad poetry now and again. Geoff Love movie themes records on MFP and Shadows Golden Greats!!! Being born in '69 clearly wasn't a leap from being born in '67. I would have found room for "Space Ritual" though.

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George Henderson
Apr 1, 2012 10:53pm

Far Out! Ah could'nae agree mair.
Morrison Hotel far and away the best Doors, ditto Totale's Turns re: Fall, The Pink Fairies were monsters of rock, and so on.
Oh, and Bolan, with those fantastic and unreal productions...
Luke would be my hero. Were he not my junior, thus unfitting.
Pretention is what it's all about; great Rock Music is the sound of hubris toppling.

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Danielz
Jun 15, 2012 12:55am

If anyone wanted to check the lyrics on any of the Tyrannosaurus Rex albums, then try and obtain the original vinyl album releases as they all came with printed lyrics. Although Bolan did hone down his words to become more commercial, it's worth checking out the early material as the lyrics were supreme, beautiful and amazing...

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Michael E
Feb 11, 2013 6:16pm

Beard of Stars and Unicorn, yeah! I had to smile when reading his comment... I also loved to be drawn in this really weird free folk world, didn't go fo the lyrics, was thrilled by the singing and the atmospheres!

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