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Seth Lakeman
Hearts And Minds Michael Waters , July 23rd, 2010 13:47

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Lakeman's previous works to date - which nobody would know existed if it weren't for his career-catalysing rugged looks, photographed near some grass looking pensive - have been sufficiently homogeneous for the slight upping in “heaviness” on Hearts and Minds to seem like a insane stylistic departure. Admittedly, the distortion and pace of the opening track is unexpected on first listen, but it very quickly sinks in as inane; the vocals recall those of Jack Black in the farcical Tenacious D. Truth be told, if the vocal stems were removed, some of the crunchier arrangements here would intrigue. This is not the case in 'Stepping Over You', though, where banjo provided by Bellowhead superstar Benji Kirkpatrick fails to distinguish the song.

Ballad 'Spinning World' seems to be intended as the thoughtful summit of the album, but instead feels like Lakeman reaching for the next empty metaphor or next note in the distressingly familiar melody line. The lyrics overall are so middle-of-the-road that one would hope that they be run over by a lorry, but alas the album closer 'The Circle Grows' sees any hope of this shredded - rather nice double bass parts are gatecrashed by vacuous, quasi-philosophical drool. “A great belief is in the heart of every man”. Yes.

As far as the current crop of songwriters who use the violin as their key instrument go, Lakeman is overshadowed by Andrew Bird, who himself is no patch on Owen Pallett. Aside from that, Lakeman and his drippy nu-folk ilk claim to be contributing to the great tradition of ancestral song, yet in his case this merely masks a paucity of any fresh ideas. Mere fiend with a violin.

Jan B
Jul 23, 2010 7:23pm

Oh dear Mr Walters, you obviously woke up feeling inadequate yet obviously tempered with pretentiousness, 0 /10 for that piece of poison

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Calinda
Jul 24, 2010 8:27am

oi, get your head outta your arse and listen with your ears you supercillious twit

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 11:02am

This is probably the worst album I've heard this decade so far. And that's saying something.

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Jul 24, 2010 1:09pm

Really? What a ridiculous statement, I imagine your musical listening to be somewhat limited then

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 1:30pm

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I listen to an average of seven new albums a day... seven days a week across the genres of indie, hip hop, extreme metal, dubstep, modern classical, noise, pop, folk, industrial, psych, drone, rock and prog... and this vacuous piece of shit is the worst album I've heard all decade.

Go on, why don't you tell me how I don't understand folk music.

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Jul 24, 2010 2:07pm

In reply to John Doran:

Nag I don't think I'll bother, your viewpoint is so skewed, I feel a bit sorry for you. Even if you don't like the music to call anything with the likes of Sean Lakeman, one of the best guitarists across any genre and the bass playing of Ben Nicols 'vacuous shit' displays a lack of musical knowledge no amount of listening to a myriad of albums could put right.

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 2:12pm

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Do you think Sean Lakeman is, like, our generation's Hendrix?

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Jul 24, 2010 2:35pm

Err, no, I wouldn't compare the two, you're either a spotty teenager with penis issues or a middle aged man with erectile problems trying to be 'hip' or a frustrated underachieving twonk , can't decide which. Anyway Mr Doran I think I've had enough of your puerile rantings, ciao honey

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 2:48pm

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So he's more like Robert Fripp?

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Jul 24, 2010 3:02pm

In reply to John Doran:

He married Toyah Wilcox so he doesn't count, I get that you are trying to build a 'witty' reposte around hair btw, are you bald then?

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 3:10pm

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I'm just trying to imagine how one so young could be so amazing as to be the best across any genre...

So, basically he's like a combination of Derek Bailey, Dave Mustaine, Devin Townsend, Michael Rother, Tommy Victor, Fripp and Hendrix and he plays for Seth Lakeman, a Butlins-level, cruise ship entertainer?

Well, it is true what they say... you do learn something new every day.

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John Doran
Jul 24, 2010 3:11pm

In reply to John Doran:

And thanks for visiting the site Mrs Lakeman, make sure both of your sons get to bed on time tonight.

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Jul 24, 2010 5:16pm

In reply to John Doran:

There is a third you know...............bit more research on the srtists your site reviews next time, eh? x

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Jul 24, 2010 5:18pm

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And you should really be aware that Sean Lakeman is indeed, by musicians, considered one of the best acoustic guitarists around at the present time, across many genres.

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Jul 24, 2010 7:19pm

wow, there is a lot of angst going on here. Think the review was very unprofessionally written. There was too much focus on the personal rather than the music which is what it should be about. But, fair enough, you don't have to like the album. Also, John bloke, you don't have to like the album either, BUT all because you personally don't like it doesn't mean that the people that perform on it are untalented. They are talented otherwise they wouldn't have done this well. The amount of album sales and fans speak against your words VERY loudly. I think this album is gorgeous, and having met some of those who are in the band, they are a group of lovely and charming people that do not deserve such harsh words or criticisms.

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Michael Waters
Jul 25, 2010 12:04pm

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@Jan B: My name is Michael Waters without an L. Nothing spells inadequacy like criticising an album review, having read it with all the meticulousness to not get the writer's name correct. Regarding "Mr", your sarcastic formality is welcome.

@Calinda: If disliking an album (with backing arguments) constitutes superciliousness, then calling a published reviewer a "twit" (with no backing arguments) does more so.

@John Doran: I'd be inclined to agree re: worst record of the decade, and re: props to Derek Bailey.

@courageously anonymous: "I feel a bit sorry for you" is one of the most condescending things anybody can say, particularly having displayed no musical knowledge yourself. Sanctimonious white knighter.

@courageously anonymous 2: "you're either a spotty teenager with penis issues or a middle aged man with erectile problems trying to be 'hip' or a frustrated underachieving twonk"... bravo, you nasty and bitter - not to mention phallocentric - piece of twat.

@courageously anonymous 3: Considered "by musicians". What does that even mean? I am a musician, and one of the opinion that Sean Lakeman's guitar competence can be learned with a couple teaching books, several 6-hour bedroom practice sessions and zero imagination. I must have missed the last "musicians" meeting.

@courageously anonymous 4: "There was too much focus on the personal rather than the music", followed by "having met some of those who are in the band, they are a group of lovely and charming people that do not deserve such harsh words or criticisms.". Hurr. Thanks for your unbiased contribution.

Jesus.

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Jan B
Jul 25, 2010 3:31pm

In reply to Michael Waters:

@Michael Waters with no L, I spelt your name wrongly to piss you off and it obviously worked , such is the immensity of your ego. As for the rest of your repiies you have just succeeded in showing yourself to be a rather nasty ,petulant piece of work. My work here is done

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Edward Cullakeman.
Jul 25, 2010 3:35pm

Definitely music is facts; and disagreeing with facts is bad.

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Jan B
Jul 25, 2010 4:05pm

In reply to Edward Cullakeman.:

And unintelligible badly phrased sentences like yours Edward are plain dumb

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Jul 25, 2010 5:16pm

In reply to Jan B:

What "work is done" here? You haven't actually "done" anything, besides leave a fairly mean throwaway comment, the only actual content of which was a misread name (I can't say I buy your subsequent backtracking).

Nobody asked you to do any "work" here. Take your bored, delusional badmouthing elsewhere.

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Jul 25, 2010 6:54pm

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Oops don't you want to play anymore because the nasty lady didn't roll over in the face of your imagined superiority. Ok sweetie I'll disappear and leave the badmouthing you call reviews for others to make their own minds up over

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Jul 25, 2010 7:22pm

anonymous person 4 would like to add that I am of course biased, but I liked the music before I liked the people. I was just saying that they are nice people, and some of the words USED rather than the OPINIONS put across are a bit too harsh, and they don't deserve that. I'm sure they can cope with criticism. And you are clearly biased yourself as you so clearly state with your opening sentence mocking Mr Lakeman about his looks. He is a rather nice looking chap, but folk doesn't tend to revolve around pretty men and being pretty doesn't buy you success in that market.

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Jul 25, 2010 7:23pm

In reply to Michael Waters:

you commented on someone spelling your name wrong? do be serious dude...you got the title of a song wrong so not too sure youve listened to the album properly! Twat

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Jul 25, 2010 10:25pm

Oh, and Sean is a good guitarist. He has taught a couple of friend's of mine. To be fair, one of them did leave but that was based on the style of music rather than the actual skill. My other friend swears that he was the best person to learn guitar from. He is talented. Can this turn from an attack on the people and return to criticism on the MUSIC. Stop being such petty idiots everyone and one, Mr Waters, your free to your opinion but this isn't a review, it's an attack. Everyone else, this is someone giving their opinion, written distastefully, but he's allowed to it. People aren't going to like the same things so don't shout at him because he doesn't like something you do. So can we all try and be polite?

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Jul 25, 2010 10:57pm

A good-looking, well-meaning and lovely gentleman (not to mention technically skilled guitarist) Seth Lakeman may be, but why settle for his pseudofolk-referencing pop tripe, diluted to within an innocuous inch of its capacity to inspire or excite, when there are so many artists operating in the pop and folk fields with actual creative dexterity?

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Jul 26, 2010 7:48am

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Maybe if Mr Waters had responded politely without personally attacking everyone who had the temerity to voice an alternate opinion to his , people would not have reacted quite so angrily, I do recall his calling people shits & twats. Just a thought

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Steve
Jul 26, 2010 3:34pm

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Well Mr Waters didn't start the name calling did he? And nor did John Doran.

An artist you really really really like gets a bad review...so what?

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Jul 26, 2010 8:23pm

The whole point is it wasn't a review, it was a personal attack and yes Mr Waters who started the ball rolling. No one minds a band they follow getting a bad review based on a reasonable point of view. That was just a tirade that smacked of point scoring

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Rich M
Jul 27, 2010 8:00am

I just knew there'd be a load of defensive comments from the self-appointed Lakeman Rapid Response Internet Defence Force. He's got one of "those" fanbases. Catladies. Bakers of sweaters into cakes. Yeah.

Poor guy.

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Jul 27, 2010 9:41am

In reply to Rich M:

you think? how very stereotypical Rich M, I think maybe if you chance to see some of us you'd change your mind, the people I go to gigs with are pretty hot by anyones standards & yes I would include myself & the guys love it believe me , they really do

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Dorothy
Jul 27, 2010 10:47am

Good review Mr Waltesers.
Good to see Seth Lakeman fans are as intelligent as I would have thought judging from the slop he shoves up their bums on a regular.

What a good looking man though. I'd like to bake him a jumper in a cake.

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Jul 27, 2010 12:18pm

In reply to Dorothy:

Lol! Just thought I'd respond as a 14 year old, as that seems to be the depths to which this exchange has sunk.

The fact is this was not a review of the album, but came across as a personal attack on Lakeman as a person, and the subsequent comments on his fanbase are really unnecessary.

If you don't like the music fine, but don't trash it without musical justification.
If you are a fan, surely there are going to be some things you don't like, instead of just blanket worshipping everything he does, says, or sings.
I do happen to think he, and his band, are very talented musicians, I don't believe this can be disputed, but I don't think this particular album reflects that. Too many whistles and bells, and clunking about.
Just my opinion, and there is no need to attack me viciously for holding that view.

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Jul 27, 2010 12:40pm

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oh but they will, how dare you like Seth Lakeman, Mr Waters & Mr Doran have pronounced it not worthy and Mr Doran should know, he listens to 7 albums a day you know including something called Drone, so as you can see they are experts.

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John Doran
Jul 27, 2010 2:39pm

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Dear Seth Lakeman fan idiots: please keep coming back to my site. The advertisers are very pleased with your inability to stop clicking here. Thanks.

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Jul 27, 2010 3:02pm

In reply to John Doran:

if you insist , a pleasure as always, nice to see your objectivity is intact

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Michael
Jul 27, 2010 4:01pm

I (have) like(d) Seth Lakeman. I've met and interviewed him, and even said nice things about him. None of this detracts from the fact that this album is so MOR that it's having a spot of fisticuffs with some cat's eyes.

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Jul 27, 2010 9:26pm

Fair point its probably, in fact it's definitely going to be my least liked album of his.

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Jul 27, 2010 9:49pm

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This definitely isn't my favourite of his albums. I much prefer his earlier stuff, just found it so much more authentic and unique you know. I still love this one to bits, and I actually prefer it over Poor Man's Heaven I think. And while I am part of the fanbase, I am not a cat lady. I'm more of a dog person myself. And I, personally, like to just enjoy the music. There have been plenty of bad reviews that I have read about this album, and I even agree with some of the things they say about it. I don't feel the need to big him up all the time, as someone said. An artist I like got a bad review, so what?
It's just that this review is so vicious and the way it's been written is so unnecessary! It's not a review of the album at all. All you can get from this review is 'it's shit and the only reason he's successful is because he's good looking'.
And I would never bake a jumper into a cake. Waste of a good jumper... and I don't like cake.

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Jul 28, 2010 10:42am

At the start of 2008 we were of the opinion that there was a massive gap in the market for an online music publication not in thrall to snarky one-upmanship hype, or an overload of fast-click, low-quality content. We also thought there was a gap in the market for a magazine that treated music of all genres from the last 30 years with the same reverence that titles such as MOJO and Word treat the rock & roll hall of fame

OH?

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John Doran
Jul 28, 2010 11:27am

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Yes.

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Jul 28, 2010 11:37am

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Fail

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John Doran
Jul 28, 2010 12:17pm

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I don't think so but keep on clicking, it's giving me a hard on.

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Jul 28, 2010 12:39pm

In reply to John Doran:

don't suppose thats much to see

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Jan B
Jul 28, 2010 1:58pm

Someone I know has suggested sending the review plus the comments to Pseuds Corner in Private Eye............

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Eric T
Jul 28, 2010 3:26pm

In reply to Jan B:

You spelt "replies" incorrectly to piss me off, didn't you, Jan B? I know your game...

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Michael Waters
Jul 28, 2010 4:19pm

In reply to Eric T:

@Eric T: Yeah, Jan B really knows how to get inside our heads.

@those accusing my review of being a personal attack: You haven't actually read it. There are arguments concerning the instrumentation, lyrics and mixing. You probably overlooked them because you disagreed with them. The fact is, there isn't all that much musical content to comment on if one refrains from simply pointing out the lazy pastiche and reference that constitutes most of the songwriting, and indeed all of Lakeman's output.

@whoever called Seth Lakeman's previous records "authentic and unique": Please tell me your are joking.

I'm so entertained by how much of a hit machine my piece has been.

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Jul 28, 2010 4:40pm

the only thing remotely personal attack about this review is the opening sentence. Hasnt anybody actually read past that?

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Luke Fear
Jul 28, 2010 5:18pm

"including something called Drone"

That's hilarious. You've never heard of Drone music. Oh well, I suppose you're never going to get round to Sunn O))) if you're too busy listening to Mumford Marling and the Whale.

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Luke Fear
Jul 28, 2010 5:23pm

Plus, why is everyone commenting on how good a guitar teacher the guy is. I'm sure Steve Vai would make a good guitar teaching, but you're not going to buy his music are you?
I know there are exceptions but if he's really as successful as evryone is making out, why would he need to do part-time guitar teaching?

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John Doran
Jul 28, 2010 6:12pm

In reply to Jan B:

Will you get them to send my NME review in instead. I've been trying to get into psued's corner for years.

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jan b
Jul 28, 2010 6:14pm

In reply to Eric T:

I soo did Edward,, I thought about it all day & then I did it

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jan b
Jul 28, 2010 6:17pm

In reply to John Doran:

Oh it was your NME review, nah sorry thats nowhere near pretentious enough but Mr Waters on the other hand......see you've got something to aim for now, keep trying

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Jul 28, 2010 6:21pm

In reply to Luke Fear:

Dear Luke , I know!!! can you believe I admitted to such a thing & on a public website OMG, I guess that's my membership of the 'so cool it hurts club revoked then'.It was just the name, y'know..Drone suggests something that would be irritating & tuneless but then I don't know from Drone so forgive me. I 've heard of Krautrock does that help.........no..? ah well I'd better get back to knitting that cake for that nice Mr Lakeman

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Michael Waters
Jul 28, 2010 6:42pm

John's NME review is priceless!

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Sally
Jul 28, 2010 7:04pm

@Mr Waters...

"@those accusing my review of being a personal attack: You haven't actually read it. There are arguments concerning the instrumentation, lyrics and mixing. You probably overlooked them because you disagreed with them. The fact is, there isn't all that much musical content to comment on if one refrains from simply pointing out the lazy pastiche and reference that constitutes most of the songwriting, and indeed all of Lakeman's output."

@whoever called Seth Lakeman's previous records "authentic and unique": Please tell me your are joking."

Judging by the above comments, whatever you claim about your arguments it's clear that you approached this album with negative preconceptions about the artist. As such, I'd suggest that you were never going to produce a fair, even-handed and unbiased review.

I'll leave you with that thought, and will resist all temptation to make bad puns based on your name, the name of the subject of your snarky review, sinking to new depths or shallowness.

Lots of love x

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Luke Fear
Jul 28, 2010 8:25pm

@whoever wrote "Dear Luke , I know!!! can you believe I admitted to such a thing & on a public website OMG, I guess that's my membership of the 'so cool it hurts club revoked then'.It was just the name, y'know..Drone suggests something that would be irritating & tuneless but then I don't know from Drone so forgive me. I 've heard of Krautrock does that help.........no..? ah well I'd better get back to knitting that cake for that nice Mr Lakeman"

Fair enough if you haven't heard of a fairly obscure genre. But if you're trying to call out the Editor of a pretty eclectic music website and mock him for referring to a genre that you're ignorant of, the least that you can do is google it and find out whether, heaven forbid, you may just be wrong and it may just be something that does exist but hasn't had the fortune to be introduced to your oh so wide-reaching lexicon.

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Tiny Brain
Jul 28, 2010 8:45pm

In reply to Sally :

Hey all,

Hold your handdsssss uppp to the skkkkkkkkkyyy

Stand toggggthherr tooo survivvveee its strong hearts and minnnnnnnnndddddds

This is a fresh sound man. No way is dis shit middle of road lyrics man

Rock on amigos

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Sally
Jul 28, 2010 9:38pm

In reply to Tiny Brain:

& your point is?

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Jul 28, 2010 10:54pm

In reply to Luke Fear:

"Plus, why is everyone commenting on how good a guitar teacher the guy is. I'm sure Steve Vai would make a good guitar teaching, but you're not going to buy his music are you?
I know there are exceptions but if he's really as successful as evryone is making out, why would he need to do part-time guitar teaching?"

He actually gave up being a guitar teacher BECAUSE he became so successful.
And okay, Mr Waters, you comment on some melodic and lyrical technicalities, there's nothing wrong with the fact you don't like it, it's the way it's said. For Christ's sake, how many times do I have to say that?
And yeah, his sound was authentic and unique when he started. His album DID get nominated for a mercury music award you know. And there are many people of the same opinion as that, and the amount of fans he has clearly means that he's popular. You don't like him, I get it and I have NO problem with you not liking him, just the way in which you express the opinion. But don't get offended when people criticise you for disliking him when you go and attack all those who do.

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Luke Fear
Jul 28, 2010 11:50pm

@whoever

"His album DID get nominated for a mercury music award you know"
- The Spice Girls, Take That, Robbie Williams, U2, Sting, Athlete, The Darkness, Joss Stone, The Zutons, Hard Fi, Maximo Park, Kasabian and Stereophonics were all once nominated for the Mercury Prize. You should probably be careful not to judge music based upon a competition designed by the music industry to promote albums that need a bit of a boost in sales.

"the amount of fans he has clearly means that he's popular." - The Spice Girls, Take That, Robbie Williams, U2, Sting, Athlete, The Darkness, Joss Stone, The Zutons, Hard Fi, Maximo Park, Kasabian and Stereophonics were all once popular and had many fans. You should probably be careful not to judge music based upon what people think. People are generally quite shit.

"there's nothing wrong with the fact you don't like it, it's the way it's said. For Christ's sake, how many times do I have to say that?" - What the hell is wrong with a bit of vitriol every now and then? Imagine how boring reviews would be if reviewers had to tread eggshells around the opinions of everyone on the internet so as not to hurt feelings. For Christ's sake, if you people read Steven Wells you would burst into tears!

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Michael Waters
Jul 29, 2010 12:03am

In reply to Luke Fear:

There is no distinction between the words used and an opinion expressed. The words constitute the opinion. If you have a problem with "the way it's said" then you have a problem with my opinion. Either way, it isn't really my problem. I just really like watching the comment count rise.

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Jul 29, 2010 7:39am

Whatever, I give up on this. You people obviously cannot open your minds enough to accept that people actually like this guy. There are different varieties of music for a reason you know. I like him, I've been a fan over the past three years, and I PERSONALLY believe that his music is good and he's worth the money I spend on going to gigs.
And if apparently I can't judge music on what people think because they are quite shit, then I'll make sure not to judge music on what you think because obviously as you are people, you are quite shit.

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Jul 29, 2010 10:22am

In reply to Luke Fear:

Dear Luke

Today I googled Drone which seems to be music based on a long continuous note and involves a great deal of pretensious twaddle & I listened to Elysium Facade & Sunn O ))) hmm well I shall stick to knitting cakes & music I can move to but just to let you know I tried and if you like it well good for you

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Jul 29, 2010 10:24am

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Drone- Dull, monotonous tone such as a humming or buzzing sound. Also a bass note held under a melody.

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Jul 29, 2010 10:59am

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Dismissive

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Jul 29, 2010 11:01am

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Drone is a minimalist form of musical composition.

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Jul 29, 2010 11:13am

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yes drone is so pretensious compared to the deep authenticity of Lord Lakeman. Imbiciles

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Jul 29, 2010 12:05pm

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Why is it you feel the need to resort to derogatory name calling when people express an opinion that isn't yours. Meanwhile I imagine Messrs Doran & Waters are still in ectasies over the number of site hits. Its so nice to able to help the needy.xxx

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Steve
Jul 29, 2010 12:18pm

So if you have a previous negative opinion on Seth Lakeman a review can never be fair, even handed and unbiased? And presumably if you love his previous work then your opinion can also be dismissed.

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Jul 29, 2010 12:23pm

In reply to Steve:

I agreed with Steve, fair dos to anyone whos written any review without preconceptions, ever

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Jan B
Jul 29, 2010 12:54pm

In reply to Steve:

semantics

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Dorothy
Jul 29, 2010 4:38pm

In reply to Jan B:

What's all the fuss? I'm quite a fan of Lachenmann. Oh you're talking about Lakenmann!

Oh yeah who needs semantics? They are only the foundation of society. Let's all resort to communicating in grunts. Hang on who needs society eh? Let's make Lakenman king!

Right I'm off to leave the house now. The outside is quite nice you know. Might put some Seth on my MP3 player.

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Jan B
Jul 29, 2010 5:43pm

In reply to Dorothy:

Yeees & your point is? 'In general, semantics (from the Greek semantikos, or "significant meaning," derived from sema, sign) is the study of meaning, in some sense of that term. Semantics is often opposed to syntax, in which case the former pertains to what something means while the latter pertains to the formal structure/patterns in which something is expressed (e.g. written or spoken).

Several more particular senses of the word can be identified: '

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Jul 29, 2010 7:23pm

In reply to Jan B:

jan has an A Level in English, don't mess

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Jul 29, 2010 7:37pm

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I was just stating a fact. Never even heard this CD that has caused this thread. Have no opinions on it whatever. I may possibly be an imbecile tho.

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John D
Jul 30, 2010 3:59pm

In reply to Jan B:

Can we make love with Seth Lakeman masks on?

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Emerson Lakeman Palmer
Jul 30, 2010 4:04pm

I've got The Punch Bowl and I've just listened to the first track on this new album which gives me the justification to say it's probably all not that great and he's hit a career slump with success.

On the other hand, it's a perfect album to fill in awkward familial silence on a drive to the grandparents' 45th wedding anniversary.

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Jul 30, 2010 4:14pm

Seth Lakeman is so shit

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Jul 30, 2010 6:23pm

To be honest, everyone isn't going to like him and his music, but if people can start realising that and stop having a go at people who have a different opinion to them and just discuss this rationally rather than relying on insults and slander then you'll probably find people are much more willing to listen to your opinion.
Taking the last comment 'Seth Lakeman is shit': 1) you don't find his music to your taste. Therefore, it is YOUR preferences that effect your opinion rather than his actual music and that doesn't mean he's shit. 2) He is a man and is not brown, squidgy and smelly so I don't really think he's actually shit.
And also whoever made the slur on Jan having an A Level in Englsih, 1) there are two different English course so which are you referring to and 2) actually you do cover that sort of thing in English Literature or Language and you end up knowing an awful lot about texts. I've just gone through a Literature so I would know. Don't make comments on things you have no knowledge of.

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Jul 30, 2010 8:59pm

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'Taking the last comment 'Seth Lakeman is shit': 1) you don't find his music to your taste. Therefore, it is YOUR preferences that effect your opinion rather than his actual music and that doesn't mean he's shit.'

Na. Let's not slip into relativism here. Some things are objectively shit. You can look at a piece of shit from different angles but it's still a piece of shit. For example, if I was to look at a piece of shit through a window and then look at it through a telescope, it would still be the same piece of shit. Then I could take a sample and give a molecular analysis and it would still be a piece of shit.

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Jul 30, 2010 8:59pm

This is really fun.

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Jul 30, 2010 9:42pm

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Right...what does that actually mean? And what point does that have to any of the previous conversation? All you're talking about is looking at poo.
And whoever said that this is fun, I agree. It is rather fun! :P

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Jul 31, 2010 5:03pm

In reply to John D:

Well no because I actually don't fancy him at all

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Jul 31, 2010 5:38pm

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"Don't make comments on things you have no knowledge of."

what don't I have knowledge of? basic A-Level English curriculum. I was mocking Jan''s clearly rudimentary (probably Googled or Wiki'd) grasp of semantics/syntax.

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gob
Jul 31, 2010 5:59pm

oh man this is the worst shit ever

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Jul 31, 2010 8:57pm

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BA hons actually you presumptious moron. I know exactly what I'm talking about

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Jul 31, 2010 8:58pm

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Best go lie down a a dark room sweetie until its all over, it's practically run its course now so be strong

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Aug 1, 2010 3:39pm

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sorry, I didn't know you had a BA Hons

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Aug 1, 2010 3:44pm

i love u seth laekmans

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Simon Rowbotham
Aug 1, 2010 6:50pm

I disagree with your album review, so you're obviously wrong and a bellend.

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Aug 1, 2010 7:17pm

In reply to Simon Rowbotham:

can someone quote a personal attack bit :s

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Steve Brule
Aug 1, 2010 10:58pm

Cum on people its obvious, Seth Lakemans initals:

S.B.L
= 19 2 12 (positions in alphabet)
put them together and take away 81 (squares on chess board)
= 19131
now here's the scary bit, DIVIDE IT BY 21 (Seth Lakesman was 21 in 1998)
= 911
Yes that's NINE ELEVEN...
Coincidence?! I think not.

Open your eyes!!?!

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Michael Waters
Aug 1, 2010 11:19pm

In reply to Steve Brule:

Steve Brule, who are you? Dr. Steve Brule is amazing, and your comment was much good.

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Aug 1, 2010 11:44pm

In reply to Michael Waters:

for your health!

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Aug 1, 2010 11:45pm

I personally found Seth to be the gentlest of lovers.

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Aug 2, 2010 8:09am

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really? , hmm he must have improved then

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Aug 2, 2010 11:17am

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seth lakeman is like when you make ice cubes outta sstupid water

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Aug 2, 2010 12:54pm

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would that be stoopid as , I is thick and can't spell. As soon as you learn to read & write properly you may get somewhere

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Aug 2, 2010 9:50pm

In reply to Steve Brule:

hahaha, that's hilarious! I'm a seth fan and I found that funny!
Though you may have a little too much time on your hands :P Though I'm probably really dense and showing it by asking this, but why is 1998 significant?
oh and sorry for the person I criticised by saying they didn't know anything about A Lev Eng, I get a little over defensive sometimes!
But anyways can we all agree to disagree? I think it's fair enough to say that both sides of the table have said some silly things and have been insulting....

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Therapy?
Aug 3, 2010 9:48am

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Never apologise, never explain.

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Sliebermann
Aug 3, 2010 2:00pm

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Is it spelt Seth Lakeman or Seth Laekman? I thought he was a Dutchman? I may have him confused with Hank Liekman tho?

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Aug 3, 2010 4:30pm

In reply to Sliebermann:

it's Lakeman!

And there's nothing wrong with apologising, especially when you've done or said something wrong! :)

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Aug 7, 2010 1:23pm

I prefer Nyodene D's Hearts and Minds.

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Paul Grace
Oct 18, 2011 10:25pm

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jAN, You are quite wrong and obviously no musician. It is dangerously dull and shows english folk at its most inane. It requires grade 3 violin and a few open chords, throw in some Larry The Lamb vocals and there you have it. Shocking that people are so easily pleased/fooled. Give up Seth while you still have your dignity.

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Dec 9, 2011 12:29am

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good music doesn't have to lean on technique and complexity. What's most important in music is that it's not Seth Lakeman

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Luke
Dec 4, 2013 9:58pm

I have not heard this album in full but the brief snippets that I have heard sounded like absolute toss. But... to criticize Sean Lakeman's guitar skills based on this album is unbelievable. I saw Sean and Kathryn a few weeks ago and was blown away by how one guitar can sound so good. Listen to Lovely Nancy or Money Jewels and tell me what he's playing? I bet you won't have a clue.

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