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Ocular Spectacular: Liam Gallagher And Andy Bell Of Beady Eye Interviewed
Julian Marszalek , February 28th, 2011 03:49

Julian Marszalek meets the first of the Gallagher brothers (and his trusty second in command) out of the post Oasis starting gates and finds him in combative mood

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Standing with his hands clasped firmly behind his back, Liam Gallagher stares from behind his fringe to give an almost withering look of contempt. His mouth gives off the merest hint of a sneer but one suspects that he feels that it isn’t worth the bother as he finds himself feeding a hunger that’s clearly palpable. He stands like an immovable rock impervious to what’s going on around him. He’s at the centre of the universe and right here, right now, nothing else matters other than the music that he’s bringing a voice to.

That voice… one part John Lydon sneer to two parts John Lennon nasal delivery is about to set the country alight. These are the anthems that will soon be on everybody’s lips, a soundtrack to hedonism, freedom and late nights that morph into early mornings and beyond…

…and so much for The Quietus’ first encounter with Liam Gallagher back in May 1994 at Windsor’s Old Trout when Oasis, then touring ‘Shakermaker’, were building up a rabid fanbase thanks to live shows that combined instantly accessible songs with a seductive sonic ferocity that hadn’t been heard since the days of The Jesus & Mary Chain.

Ah yes – The Jesus & Mary Chain. Two brothers at war who finally fell apart both painfully and publicly and it’s a story that comes to be repeated as Liam and older brother Noel find their relationship and band disintegrating as internecine fighting finally brings the Oasis tale to a sad and sorry end. Like the subsequent albums post (What’s The Story) Morning Glory, their 2009 demise may have proved predictable but the undeniable truth for both believers and haters was that by reaching the conclusion of this sprawling saga, a large entertaining hole has been left wide open and gaping on the cultural landscape.

The Quietus has found itself in the presidential suite of a Marylebone hotel to meet both Liam Gallagher and guitarist Andy Bell as they ready themselves to launch their post-Oasis band, Beady Eye – formed with erstwhile band mates, guitarist Gem Archer and drummer Chris Sharrock - with their debut album, Different Gear, Still Speeding and inaugural UK tour.

Contrary to his hell-raising image, Liam Gallagher proves to be a charming and genial host. Relaxed and at ease with himself, he’s possessed of a fierce self-belief and self-awareness that’s frequently overlooked in the column inches that he generates. His intelligence is evident as he considers the questions that are put to him and the frankness of his answers is refreshing and, at times, shocking. It’s this strength that can be a weakness. Unlike many artists of his stature who are adept players at the publicity game, Gallagher refuses to censor himself and the pain caused by the implosion of the band he helped create means that he lashes out at his brother in the most provocative (and occasionally unpleasantly misogynist) terms. But his anger seems to be directed solely at his brother and himself.

His blue eyes hold your gaze and there’s an ever-present sense of danger about his demeanour which probably goes some way to explain why two music PRs sit at opposite ends of the room like a pair of referees in case it all kicks off.

Of course it doesn’t and the interview is punctuated by much laughter. The passion that Gallagher and Bell exude when discussing their new musical venture is at the heart of what fuels them. They’re acutely aware of what they’ve created and its place in the pop firmament and their hunger for success is no different from when they both started off their respective bands all those years ago…

The Oasis split has been fairly well documented elsewhere but how did you feel immediately after the split? Did you feel relieved or did you feel apprehensive about the future?

Liam Gallagher: No, not relief. But that’s life and I could kind of see it coming. It had been brewing for a bit and Noel was acting like a fucking woman, like a bitch and I was acting like a dickhead. But I like to think that there’s a reason behind my fucking actions because I like to keep it clean. There was a lot of shit going down and a lot of shit being written about my band and shit in the press and all that and Noel being so fucking close to the press. He was having a word with some of his friends in higher places and if it was me, I’d be fucking pulling knobheads up and saying to journalists, 'Wind your fucking neck in a bit.'

But you know, his mates are more important than his brother or his fucking band so fuck him. I’m not having it. You know, people who slate me in the press and coming back to my dressing room and drinking my fucking beer? Fuck that; it doesn’t work like that round my way, mate. You slag me off you don’t come to my fucking dressing room and drink my beer. That was basically it. It’s not all about me drinking or bollocks like that; it takes two to tango, you know what I mean?

But how did you feel immediately afterwards?

LG: Relief, to be quite honest; I’ll give you that. Shock as well but I knew that it was coming. And now, I’m very glad that it’s fucking all over. Which is a shame but nothing lasts forever. Judging in hindsight, which is the best thing, what’s grown out of it is Beady Eye and we’re making fucking music.

Andy Bell: I was on the sidelines of Liam and Noel’s issues but at the same time I felt like we’d all been sacked from Oasis. Things were finally taken to the next level. Oasis had been such a massive force that you end feeling like you’d been sacked.

LG: It was like a Noel solo thing anyway. He was doing everything. You’d say something like, “Like try this” and you’d get a look as if to say, “What the fuck are you talking about, you clown?” and that doesn’t wash with me, man. He might have written the tunes but I sang them and I like to think that I sold them. I stood my ground, he stood his ground and two worlds collided.

AB: It was the natural end to the band. Oasis had a life span and it wasn’t going to last forever. It wasn’t like one of those bands like the Stones. It was always going to do one in the same spirit that it started. When I was in the band we did a little tour without Noel and there were always some issues and madness going on. From that point on that was the way that it hobbled along. In saying all this, the last tour we did was the best we’d ever done. As a live band we got better and better and on the stadium shows on that tour we played really, really well. But within the band, something had to go at some point.

How soon after the break-up did you decide to form Beady Eye?

AB: We went back to the hotel [after Noel walked out] and sat around drinking beer and we were there! The band members of Beady Eye were there so it didn’t take much of a leap to go, 'Let’s do something.'

Andy, was there ever point of loyalties being tugged because my understanding is that Noel brought you into the band…

LG: [interrupting] See, this is the thing. Noel’s getting credit for [drummer Chris] Sharrock, Gem, Andy and everyone else and I get credit for all the people that got fucking sacked. Noel didn’t just go, 'Right, I’m going to get Andy Bell!' because he’d have to come through me. Both of us hired people and if anyone sacked anybody then it was Noel Gallagher. He sacked [drummer Alan White] Whitey, he sacked Bonehead, he sacked Guigsy [bassist, Paul McGuigan] and whoever else it fucking was but the hiring came from both of us. Noel Gallagher hired everyone? Fuck off, mate!

AB: Look, Noel walked out on the band. He didn’t say, 'Andy, do you fancy heading off with me?'

LG: And a statement was made pretty fucking quickly that night. It wasn’t like a week later, it was basically, 'I’m outta here!' Bosh! 'Here’s my statement.'

Was there any question of you stopping playing?

LG: Never, ever. We’re here to make music, man. Noel Gallagher’s not going to stop us. Fuck that! He’s the brother of a brother in a band. If he wants to walk and doing his fucking thing then fine, man. No one's gonna stop us making music because of Noel Gallagher. Fuck that! I like to think that we’ve got it in us.

Given the way that you described the working practices of Oasis, how much freedom does Beady Eye afford you in comparison?

AB: Beady Eye is a democracy and we all bring in ideas and we all bring in songs and of course we have complete freedom. That’s the thing that has to be mentioned in comparison to Oasis. That doesn’t mean that we didn’t have freedom in Oasis because we did. The dynamic in Beady Eye is really healthy.

LG: We’re all doing what we want to make this band great down to the album cover, our interviews, our videos, our tunes and we just fall into it. It’s a band and that’s what I like. We’re all watching each other’s backs. If it fails then we’ll all carry that weight but if it becomes a big success then we’ll all rejoice in that.

Oasis notched up some incredible milestones – Knebworth, multi-nights at Wembley Stadium, cracking the US Top 10. What do you want to achieve with Beady Eye? Can you match that? Do you even want to match that? Are you ambitions now different?

AB: Totally different. Our ambitions are about music, really.

LG: Yeah, and to still be making music. We’re thinking about it and thinking that we can be great. I like to think that we could start where we left off but it’s still early days.

AB: We’re playing different kinds of songs and where trying not to trade off the Oasis thing. The only way that we’d be trading off of it is if we’d play those songs which fucking isn’t much fun. When Noel Gallagher does it, he’ll have the whole Oasis back catalogue and that’s cool but we’re a different band and we’ve got our own bunch of tunes and that’s it.

LG: We don’t need those fucking tunes, you know what I mean? But Beady Eye’s [success or failure] won’t be through a lack of trying. Without a doubt, because we’re playing great, the songs are great and some of the songs here stand up to anything that Oasis have ever done. And the next [album] will be. But it’s not in our hands, it’s in the hands of the people upstairs but we are shit hot and we’re as good if not better than Oasis.

So what are your musical ambitions?

LG: Just to get out there and play, one tour at a time, man. Smash fuck out of this tour, let people know that we’re not dicks and that we can play our instruments and that the album’s great and that we can play live; get out to the festivals and fucking be the talking point of that festival. I’m not going there to play second fiddle to anyone. Whether we do or not is another fucking thing but we’ll be going in there like we fucking own it and not in an arrogant way but saying, 'This is our fucking thing' and be the talking point. And that’s it and then go back and start the new record and do the same again.

Do you feel under any pressure at the moment?

LG: None whatsoever. There’s no pressure. We’re doing what we want and if we don’t want to do it then we won’t do it.

You’ve both started bands before from ground level up. How does forming Beady Eye as established musicians compare?

AB: It’s very similar. You know, we’ll demo a tune with just the band in the room. It’s not posh – you’re doing it because you want to do it when you haven’t got a deal. Even though we had the wherewithal to start our own label doesn’t change the fact that we started this on a “starting-in-a-room” level and these are all our tunes and that for me really reminds me of that time in my life [when Ride started].

LG: That same hunger is there, without a doubt. Once we’re outta here and back in that rehearsal room we’re like everybody else except we’re that little bit fucking cooler, man. It’s definitely happening.

AB: When you go to a band’s gig, if they’re going to be shit then they’re going to be shit. It’s the dynamic between the band members that makes for a great gig. And the audience is a massive part of it and that room is what makes the gig and if we don’t stand up then we’ll get found out.

LG: We want to go round the world and play all these places, you know? We want this to be a massive success but at the same time because of the way of the world and that, it won’t be a let down if it doesn’t. I’m not going to be sitting there going, “Fuck!” We’ll just get up and make a new record. This is what we do. We’re not going to change our thing just because we’re not hip at the moment or anything but we’re going to stick to our guns. We want to be big, man. But if we were a younger band and it didn’t happen then your world would be shattered a bit more.

AB: We have different values now. Playing Wembley Stadium isn’t an end. We’re chasing that great record.

Your first release, ‘Bring The Light’, wrong-footed a lot of people, didn’t it?

AB: I didn’t think that it was going to be so shocking. In the context of the album it makes sense.

LG: I think [the naysayers] would’ve moaned whatever we put out. You put an Oasis record out and they’re going to fucking moan. I’m glad it’s out and I thank the Lord for tunes like that and it turned me on and the guys are having a great time. If people don’t get it first time around, so be fucking it. We got it first time around. That’s the music that we like but we don’t drive around in Cadillacs. You see how my hair is? I don’t do it like that for the interviews and then afterwards fucking grease it back! That’s music, man. That’s Elvis; that’s Jerry Lee Lewis; that Eddie Cochran. That’s the bones of it but to put a whole album of that out would be fucking ridiculous.

The press have recently been putting it about that rock music is dead.

LG: It probably is in places. But it’s not round our way. It’s as simple as that, really.

AB: It’s not really in the charts much though, is it? But it reminds me of ‘89/’90 because it was a similar thing then. It was all massively pop and Stock, Aitken and Waterman were viewed in the same way that X Factor is now.

LG: It’s nice to have a Number 1 record and a Number 1 single but it doesn’t matter so long as we can go out and do mega-storming gigs, you know? That’s all that matters to us. We’ve been round the block and we can take these things on the chin a bit. Just because the single goes in at Number 31 or whatever doesn’t mean that we’re a shit band. It’s just that the times have changed and we haven’t.

AB: Beady Eye are connected to rock & roll’s primal howl. Our music has got that 50s spirit, that 60s spirit and it’s got punk rock spirit but when we do it, it’s retro and when The White Stripes do it, it’s modern. It’s all to do with people’s perceptions of your band.

LG: It’s all about fucking choice, man; if the music’s there, then great. If no one’s making the music then it’s fucking dead but if it’s there then there’s always fucking hope. As long as people can say, 'Right, I’m going to a gig tonight!' then that’ll do me. It’ll never die.

AB: You know when you get fallow fields and you leave them for a year? Then you get a good crop and rock’s like that. It goes underground and when you least expect it you get a really good crop.

Do you find it a worrying development that something like Mumford & Sons walk away with Best Album at the Brits?

LG: I think it’s alright but they were fucking ashamed about winning and that’s the fucking sad bit. 'Oh, we shouldn’t be here!' Then what did you join a fucking band for then? They bow their heads down going, 'Oh, we don’t deserve it' like a fucking dick. What’s that about? You must have seen it before so don’t pretend like you’ve just come out of a cider apple factory.

AB: I’ve got nothing against them but I get the feeling they went back to their dressing room and went, 'YEAH!' [mimes air-punching].

LG: Still, it’s better than Take That, isn’t it?

Let’s talk influences. Liam, you grew up in Manchester in the 80s and my understanding is that electro and hip-hop was everywhere. Did that make any impact on your life and if so, why didn’t those influences manifest themselves in your music?

LG: ‘Cause I’m not into it now. You get the odd tune coming out every now and again like Wretch 32’s ‘Traktor’. It’s like So Solid Crew but I think they’re better. I like it. One tune and I thought, I’m having that! It’s a sound that does something to me but I won’t be buying the album.

AB: Dance music and hip-hop culture comes into rock music all the time and it’s a free-flowing thing but when it comes to naming your favourite albums of all time, you’ll say Hendrix or The Beatles because that’s where your heart is.

LG: I’m well aware that our new album has been done before. It ain’t nothing new but it’s fucking great. I’m well aware of people going, 'Well, you know, you could’ve put some fucking beats there' but I’m not going to do that for the sake of it. That’s not our fucking thing. We’re quite happy doing the rock & roll thing.

AB: It’s not about copying. Half the bands who want to be modern are copying each other and they’re not authentic in the way that I appreciate. I’m authentic, Liam’s authentic and we’re an authentic band because we do what we feel. We don’t feel constrained by, 'Oh, we might get this if we do a song this way.' We do what we naturally do and it makes us feel good and we’ve got the balls to stand up and do it.

LG: We just like what we do. I heard that fucking Radiohead record and I just go, 'What?!' I like to think that what we do, we do fucking well. Them writing a song about a fucking tree? Give me a fucking break! A thousand year old tree? Go fuck yourself! You’d have thought he’d have written a song about a modern tree or one that was planted last week. You know what I mean?

You’re about to release Beady Eye’s debut album and inevitably critical knives are being sharpened. Does criticism sting after all this time?

LG: Everyone’s got every right to criticise our record. Everyone’s got every fucking right to go, “Oh, it’s The Beatles, it’s The Stones, it’s The Kinks!” but I’ve got a thick skin. All I want is for the kids to like it. I don’t give a shit about the rest. We wouldn’t put this out unless we were 100% behind it. Otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation; this is the record we’ve wanted to make, these are the clothes we like to fucking wear, these are the drinks we like to drink, these are the cigs we like to smoke. There’s no point in kidding yourself – you might as well indulge in what you fucking like. Life’s too fucking short so you might as well have a good time. You’re not going to deprive yourself of shit because of some fucking knobhead in the press.

Your extra-curricular activities include your own clothing range with Pretty Green and you’ve also moved into film production where you’re filming Richard DiLello’s account of Apple Corps, The Longest Cocktail Party. How is the film coming along?

LG: It’s doing all right. We’re not re-inventing the wheel. We’re going back and tweaking a few things and filling it with gems from the past with 60s influence. I like it. It’s getting better all the time and it’s fucking great which is a top position to be in. It’s a personal thing and people either buy it or they don’t; it’s no skin off my fucking nose.

I’ve seen the script and it’s mega. It makes me laugh and it tickles me and it’ll do. But if it’s morbid and it’s boring then it won’t see the light of day. My involvement is getting the right people about. Jesse Armstrong from Peep Show is involved and it’s fucking good, man. I read the script and he narrowed it down a bit and he had me rolling around on the floor. If we can keep it like that it’ll be good, man. There’s a lot of humour in it but it’s a bit dark too. It’s not just one thing; it’s got a bit of everything. But it’s definitely got some fucking funny bits in it and some darkness.

Do you view your relationship with Noel as irreparably damaged?

LG: He hasn’t got people around him going, 'Sort it out' and I haven’t got people around me saying, 'Sort it out.' There’s a lot of people involved in it – without mentioning any names – but I don’t feel the need to go round to his fucking house and have the door slammed in my face. There’s no encouragement from any parties whereas if there was then it would get sorted. But to get it sorted for what? He wants to go on his own and make his own fucking music and be the man and let everyone know that he can fucking flush the toilet without the band or that he can pour his own fucking tea and that’s fine. I haven’t got time for that fucking bollocks in my life.

I want to be part of band and make great records. I haven’t got fucking time for, 'Oh, look at what I can do! I can do this! And I can fucking sack people!' That’s bollocks to me and people like that need to grow up; he needs to go and do that fucking shit. I’ll tell you fucking what, I’m not sitting here for him to go, 'Oh, I’m going to do my solo career and you guys can wait for five years while I fucking lord it around and have it and then I’ll fucking ring you up if it doesn’t go as well as people expect it to be.' Fuck that! We’re gone! We’re out of here!

Say it’s 2014 and someone approaches you with a huge suitcase of cash to reform Oasis for the 20th anniversary of ‘Definitely Maybe’, would you do it?

LG: I know that through my previous work with Oasis that I don’t need it just yet. I’m not going to say, 'Never', but at the moment no fucking chance. But it wouldn’t be for money, mate. I like to think that if we did get back together - which we fucking won’t - but if we did then it would be for the fans. It would be for the people and the music and not for fucking money. Fuck that shit!

You’re a finely turned out band but do you think your career could survive baldness?

LG: No, it couldn’t. But there’s hair transplants these days. Look at that little fucker from Ant and Dec! He was fucking bald in that jungle thing and now he’s got a thick fucking head of hair like Warren Beatty in Shampoo. I turned over to watch the fucking ‘News At Nine’ and I turn it back on and he’s got hair! But it’s a fucking terrible thing, isn’t it?

AB: It’s like Francis Rossi, the poor guy. The ponytail had to go in the end.

LG: But it couldn’t have gone on the front of the head, could it? I’d rather go grey than fucking bald and I’m not going to be dyeing it if it does go grey.

Beady Eye

MARCH
Thu 3rd - Barrowland Ballroom, Glasgow
Fri 4th - Barrowland Ballroom, Glasgow
Sun 6th - Manchester Apollo, Manchester
Mon 7th - Manchester Apollo, Manchester
Wed 9th - Troxy, London
Thu 10th - Troxy, London
Sun 13th - Casino De Paris, Paris
Mon 14th - E-Werk, Cologne
Wed 16th - Alcatraz, Milan
Fri 18th - La Riviera, Madrid
Sat 19th - LE BIKINI, Ramonville St Agne
Mon 21st - Paradiso, Amsterdam
Tue 22nd - Ancienne Belgique, Brussels
Fri 25th - Royal Albert Hall, London

APRIL
Thu 7th - O2 Academy Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne
Mon 11th - Rock City, Nottingham
Tue 12th - Liverpool University Guild of Students (Mountford Hall & Stanley Theatre), Liverpool, UK
Thu 14th - Olympia Theatre, Dublin
Fri 15th - Olympia Theatre, Dublin
Sun 17th - Ulster Hall, Belfast
Mon 18th - Edinburgh Corn Exchange, Edinburgh
Wed 20th - O2 Academy Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne
Thu 21st - O2 Academy Leeds, Leeds
Sat 23rd - Newport Centre, Newport
Sun 24th - The Civic Hall, Wolverhampton
Tue 26th - Southampton Guildhall, Southampton
Wed 27th - Brighton Centre, Brighton

Wook
Feb 28, 2011 2:15pm

"You’d have thought he’d have written a song about a modern tree or one that was planted last week." HA HA HA HA!

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bEAR
Feb 28, 2011 2:41pm

Thank you so much, that was fucking hilarious.

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John Tatlock
Feb 28, 2011 3:59pm

"acting like a fucking woman". Jesus wept. What a complete prick.

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sisterv
Feb 28, 2011 4:11pm

Well this is the funniest thing I've encountered this month

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G
Feb 28, 2011 4:18pm

He should have been asked if the new songs went all the way up to 11.

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Anna
Feb 28, 2011 4:52pm

"All I want is for the kids to like it."

The kids!

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Mark
Feb 28, 2011 4:54pm

He's such a talentless mong old Liam. We'll see which band is remembered 20 years down the line, Beady Eye or Radiohead.

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Andrew
Feb 28, 2011 7:59pm

Liam's alright! Why he ever agreed to be interviewed by the tossy Quietus, with your serious music and serious bands for serious turds policy, one never knows.
But you got your hit rate up, hey.

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John Tatlock
Feb 28, 2011 8:10pm

In reply to Andrew:

Is he really alright? Really? You don't see a problem with a man who, when searching for a term to describe someone negatively comes up with "like a woman"?

He's not alright, he's a fucking dickhead.

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LRH
Feb 28, 2011 8:25pm

I got the feeling that when Andy Bell used the word "fallow" Liam was thinking "fuckin' poofter" but just didn't say it.

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Andrew
Feb 28, 2011 8:40pm

In reply to LRH:

.. Or, like me, thought Bell was referring to an area of Manchester.

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John King
Feb 28, 2011 10:45pm

John Tatlock has obviously had a sense of humour bypass. Do you really feel offended because he makes a tongue in cheek remark about his own brother. Liam has been mocked for many things but I never known him to be put down for being sexist. I'm sorry we don't all live in the liberal middle class modern day utopia you would like us to which brings me nicely onto Radiohead. Shock horror! I like them...a lot. You got to have a balance in life, Thom Yorke in one ear, Liam G in the other. One more thing, why did you read the interview if you think he is a prick? He obviously upsets you, just don't be a woman about it. XX

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John Tatlock
Feb 28, 2011 11:37pm

In reply to John King:

How staggeringly droll.

It's always the accusation bandied about when one expresses disgust at shitty behaviour that there's some kind of humour deficit. I'm not so sure about that. Is "he was acting like a fucking woman, like a bitch" actually funny, really? Where's the wit in that?

And what on earth is this wibbling about middle class utopia? What's middle class about being unimpressed by the stuff that comes out of the mouths of idiotic gobshites?

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peachesc
Mar 1, 2011 1:26pm

In reply to John Tatlock:

I've got to agree with the others, that you do come across as more than a little smug and a bit of a cock John Talock

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John Tatlock
Mar 1, 2011 3:17pm

In reply to peachesc:

A powerful argument you make there, yeah. I'm completely retaking my position on this.

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billy
Mar 1, 2011 5:20pm

somebodys in denial about his washed up career. The wrong person got pushed off the stage.

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implo
Mar 1, 2011 5:44pm

In reply to Andrew:

"The tossy Quietus"? You cunt. This is the best music site on the web; the standard of writing is stellar and they cover just about everything worth covering.

"Serious music"? What a feeble-minded little man you are to use such a term in a derisory capacity. Take the foot out of your mouth and fuck off while you're doing it, you cock-socket.

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John King
Mar 1, 2011 5:57pm

Have you never called anyone a bitch, John Tatlock? Next week Liam will take it even further and call someone a big girl's blouse. Quick, call the daily mail!!!!!! Shock horror front page news.

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Stavros P. Leibowitz
Mar 1, 2011 6:14pm

In reply to Andrew:

"Tossy"? Hardly. Gallagher minor was asked some pretty straightforward questions and most of the interview is an absolute hoot and far more enjoyable than the music on his album. But to diss someone by calling them a "woman" is neither funny nor clever. The inference is that woman are lesser than men and that's clearly not true. Other than that, this the funniest thing I've read for ages.

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Jon
Mar 1, 2011 7:13pm

Liam Gallagher you are the biggest dickhead on the planet. You look an extra from 'Planet of The Apes' and you haven't an original musical bone in your body. Go crawl into a hole in the ground and die a miserable and slow death you complete prick.

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John King
Mar 1, 2011 9:01pm

In reply to Stavros P. Leibowitz:

I think your twisting his words now. He did not say women are better than men. He said 'acting like a woman, like a bitch'. To me a bitch is pain in the arse. He even said in the same sentence he(Liam) was acting like a dickhead! I find it hard to be shocked by what he has to say, some of the people on here seemed to have just crawled out from being under a rock for the last 15 years. Why waste your precious time reading a Liam Gallagher interview when you know what he is like and dislike him anyway. There are worse people around to hate then LG...Axl Rose? If you want to see a gentler side to Liam then I suggest you look at the XFM interview http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2011/dave-berry-meets-beady-eye-part-1

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Mav
Mar 1, 2011 9:23pm

In reply to Jon:

Liam is hilarious. And he's totally right about all these trendy and unsufferable Radiohead poseurs. Get an effing life, mates! As Noel once said, "The Ice Age is not coming."

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Stavros P. Leibowitz
Mar 1, 2011 9:26pm

In reply to John King:

A bitch is a pain the arse? And the word derives from what? A female dog, that's what, and it's a word that's used in a derogatory fashion against women. And what exactly is "behaving like a woman" if not a put down? Look John, the rest of the interview is very funny and highly entertaining but those phrases are sexist and misogynist. Accept the fact and move on. Liam needs to choose his words more carefully when having a go at his brother.

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John King
Mar 1, 2011 9:55pm

In reply to Stavros P. Leibowitz:

I just think it's a total overeaction, sorry. 'Liam needs to choose his words more carefully when having a go at his brother'- YEAH RIGHT!!!

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Isaac
Mar 1, 2011 11:42pm

I just hope they get Driveshaft back together.

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David
Mar 2, 2011 12:00am

Lots of people hate Liam for his attitude but people don't relize that it's as much as Noel's fault as it is Liam's. Liam, at least has shown that he was part of the reason Oasis split. We can't say the same for Noel. If Noel was a women about it then that's what he was. I don't see it being far from the truth. Liam made lots of interesting points in the interview that I respect. However the cussing could tone down a bit, you know what I mean?

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E
Mar 2, 2011 12:55am

Getting back in the Game 101: insult an artist that is infinitely more talented than you are
Staying in the Game 101: Be like Radiohead

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rob
Mar 2, 2011 1:46am

go away liam your bordering on irrelevant. plus any song about a tree is going be better than anything your half-baked band would put together.

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elle
Mar 2, 2011 4:53am

I miss you, Liam. I miss quotables like these.

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Tim Russell
Mar 2, 2011 5:59am

John Tatlock: love him or hate him, Liam is a rock star, not a politician or a brain surgeon, and saying dumb shit is part of the job description. No-one takes him seriously any more anyway so who cares what he says?

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Ballz
Mar 2, 2011 7:25am

QUESTION 1:
JM: "Did you feel relieved..."
NG: "No, not relief."

QUESTION 2:
JM: "But how did you feel immediately afterwards?"
NG: "Relief, to be quite honest..."

What a fucking retard.

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tibbar
Mar 2, 2011 8:20am

it is quite obvious to all readers, mr. gallagher, that jealousy fuels your bile. what you fail to see, in your prickishness, is that you are just promoting the new radiohead album, and earning them support as a band in general. you do yourself no service, and the music speaks for itself, doesn't it?

how's your band oasis doing lately? how's your bro?

that's what i thought.

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John Doran
Mar 2, 2011 10:04am

In reply to tibbar:

Christ on a bike. I was hoping not to have to weigh into this one... I can see Tim Russell's point and to a degree I actually agree with him but to the poster called D: how fucking stupid are you?

(First of all let's get the tedious class thing out of the way... my dad worked all his life on the shop floor of a factory, I went to a sink estate school and, in the early 90s I used to live on the next street up from Liam Gallagher's mum's in Burnage. I might not be working class now but there again neither is the millionaire rock star Liam Gallagher who moved straight out of his mum's house and into Patsy Kensit's fucking mansion in West London with a bulging bank account.)

Here is what the problem is: When he looks to insult his brother... when he searches round his brain for the worst thing he can think of to insult him to suggest how lazy, untrustworthy, feckless, unreliable and downright cuntish he is, does he compare him to a rapist? No. A dictator? No. Darth fucking Vader? No. Hitler? No. AIDS? No.

He compares him to a woman. A fucking woman. A fucking bitch. Because in the eyes of people like him - a fucking mummy's boy molly coddled and cleaned up after by women his whole life, there's nothing lower and nothing worse.

And if you're on this thread going, Eh, chill out, all he called him was a fucking woman, who cares?

Well, the answer to that is I care and plenty of us care. I'm not even feminist or particularly that millitant but if you use woman as a form of insult for someone you hate then you're hating on your mum, you're hating on your sister, you're hating on your daughter, you're hating on your aunty, you're hating on your neice, you're hating on your wife, you're hating on your girlfriend. You're hating on all the women in your life, all the women who have cared for you and taught you and helped you.

And fucking shame on you, you sub human moron.

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arm pit snorkel
Mar 2, 2011 11:35am

at least this interview is a little more provocative than the music, let whoever wants to remain in their comfort bubble remain, but dont let 'em go spouting about how they make 'rock'n'roll'... cause it aint! it's pop, the best thing you can do to a bubble!

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Chris
Mar 2, 2011 11:40am

What a fool. I really don't know why the press give so much coverage to someone whose main ambition is to stand on the shoulders of dinosaurs. A tired ambition which he still manages to fail at. He's a cartoon character; ridiculous voice, laughable image, awful, childish lyrics and music that's corny tripe.

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womens
Mar 2, 2011 11:41am

oasis suck!

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Sean
Mar 2, 2011 5:57pm

this is hilarious to me. He's playin this washed up old timey garbage and taking a swing at Radiohead? what a chumpass. Radiohead continues to push boundaries and what are you doing LG? the same shit i've heard a thousand times. btw chump Bring The Light sounded 20000000 times better when it was a grateful dead song called one more saturday night, before you sodomized it. wanker

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Jack Booth
Mar 3, 2011 12:46am

hahahahaha wow :D
alright guys, calm down. Yeah the woman insult was pushing it too far (as far as being misogynist and all that) but otherwise, how is this any different from his other interviews? Fuck this fuck that shit.... all the time. Chilllllllllll... he's always like this. But this latest album was pretty substandard... but same from Radiohead. KoL is really disappointing. Im waiting for another Bends-like album, not more Kid A. Dont get me wrong, Kid A is amazing, and i LOVE it, but i want to hear a more rocking Radiohead again. just for a change.

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Val's Dad
Mar 3, 2011 2:50am

Why can't he give us a break from his opinions and crawl back under his rock.....move on...next egotistic jerk please.

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Mar 3, 2011 9:17am

good interview. He isnt insulting women. he's insulting his brother. The suggestion being its odd when a man acts womanly. He also will have a fair idea this will annoy Noel. Which is his objective. Nutters the lot a ya.

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Pedro
Mar 3, 2011 12:05pm

Dear Liam,

After reading this i could only remember of a place you should spend some time in. Damn, what's the name of it...aaaa, can't remember, AH! School!

Truly yours

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 12:34pm

In reply to John Doran:

In reply to John Doran...

"(First of all let's get the tedious class thing out of the way... my dad worked all his life on the shop floor of a factory, I went to a sink estate school and, in the early 90s I used to live on the next street up from Liam Gallagher's mum's in Burnage. I might not be working class now but there again neither is the millionaire rock star Liam Gallagher who moved straight out of his mum's house and into Patsy Kensit's fucking mansion in West London with a bulging bank account.)"

Ooh, hark at you, "I'm working class me so I can slag off Liam with impunity cos I'm from the same stock". Don't give me that bollocks. You're just a pretentious, humourless pseud. And your envy of Liam's wealth is clear for all to see in that last sentence. How dare Liam be a millionaire? He's thick and left school at 15 and I went to university. It's not fair. Grow up, you dick.

"Here is what the problem is: When he looks to insult his brother... when he searches round his brain for the worst thing he can think of to insult him to suggest how lazy, untrustworthy, feckless, unreliable and downright cuntish he is, does he compare him to a rapist? No. A dictator? No. Darth fucking Vader? No. Hitler? No. AIDS? No."

Interesting use of the word "cuntish" there, John. Have you got a problem with vaginas? Do you think they're intrinsically bad? Only it doesn't really fit in with the following sentence...

"He compares him to a woman. A fucking woman. A fucking bitch. Because in the eyes of people like him - a fucking mummy's boy molly coddled and cleaned up after by women his whole life, there's nothing lower and nothing worse."

That's quite a leap. If I were to make such a leap, I could say that your use of the word "cuntish" makes you a misogynist. Why didn't you use the word "prickish" or "knobish"? Was it because when you searched round your brain for the worst thing you could think of as an insult, it was the reproductive organs of a woman? Tut, tut.

"I'm not even feminist or particularly that millitant but if you use woman as a form of insult for someone you hate then you're hating on your mum, you're hating on your sister, you're hating on your daughter, you're hating on your aunty, you're hating on your neice, you're hating on your wife, you're hating on your girlfriend. You're hating on all the women in your life, all the women who have cared for you and taught you and helped you."

You used the word "cuntish" as an insult. By your own logic you're also hating on your mum, sister, daughter, aunty [sic], neice [sic], wife and girlfriend. So you're not only a pretentious, humourless pseud, you're also a misogynist and a hypocrite. You sound lovely.

"And fucking shame on you, you sub human moron."

So now you hate primates as well. You really are quite the charmer.

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 12:43pm

In reply to Mark:

"He's such a talentless mong old Liam."

I notice none of you lot gallantly sticking up for womankind have the same concern for people born with cerebral palsy. Is it only me who finds this far worse than anything Liam said? Or are Radiohead fans allowed to be offensive because they operate on a higher level of intellect to Liam?

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 1:21pm

In reply to Andrew:

"Liam's alright! Why he ever agreed to be interviewed by the tossy Quietus, with your serious music and serious bands for serious turds policy, one never knows."

Quite right, Andrew. John Doran clearly despises everything Liam stands for, and yet he's cynical enough to know that an interview with a rock 'n' roll star who is actually entertaining, popular and highly quotable will raise the profile of his inherently snobbish, elitist, sub-Pitchforkesque website. The writer of this piece seems like a decent enough chap, but the cynicism of the editor is sickening. What next? At home with the Gaddafis - an interview with the heroic Colonel and his lovely sons?

"But you got your hit rate up, hey."

Amen, brother.

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 2:03pm

In reply to Sean:

"Radiohead continues to push boundaries"

Shame it's the same boundaries that were already pushed by Autechre and various other Warp/Rephlex artists in the early 90s. The last five Radiohead albums are Incunabula knock-offs with a whiney voice over the top. Same old, same old.

"and what are you doing LG?"

Singing in a band with his mates, making the music he loves and playing to adoring fans all over the world. Shit life, eh?

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Spiderwoman
Mar 3, 2011 2:08pm

In reply to Jeff:

Ha! This thread is hilarious! Excellent work Jeff. I agree "cuntish" certainly is more sexist and offensive than anything Liam said. Another meaningless internet debate comes crashing to a close.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 2:33pm

In reply to Jeff:

Jeff: The word cunt/cuntish is only misogynist in the US where it is usually directed at women. It is almost always used as a derogatory term by men against men in the UK. You need to step your game up.

But you're right on one thing: I do love rubbing my fat belly and listening to Stockhausen with my expensive snakeskin boots up on my desk, while planning a night either watching the ballet or Tarkovsky's Solaris, while tongue lolling fuck wit fans of pub rock line my bank account.

Please do carry on.

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Spiderwoman
Mar 3, 2011 3:17pm

In reply to John Doran:

Feeble excuse. Step your game up.

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Spiderwoman
Mar 3, 2011 4:14pm

So, to conclude: calling your brother a 'cunt' or 'cuntish' is fine in the UK. Calling him a 'woman' is an outrage.

It's political correctness gone mad!

I love this website. I really do.

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 5:20pm

In reply to John Doran:

I don't have a problem with you using the word "cuntish". I have a problem with your hypocrisy. I know many women who would be offended by your use of that word but I wouldn't get all faux-enraged on their behalf. Women are perfectly capable of sticking up for themselves. I also know many women who make derogatory comments about men. I've read the SCUM Manifesto. I've seen Loose Women. But do I get offended by it? Do I fuck. As long as I know I'm not a lying, cheating shit I don't give a toss what Carol McGiffin thinks.

Not wishing to speak for Liam, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't hate women, or his mum. Or Noel for that matter. I'm also pretty sure he doesn't equate womanhood with all things "lazy, untrustworthy, feckless, unreliable and downright cuntish" as you claim he does. It's interesting that you took that to be what he meant. Maybe it's you who have the real problem with women.

As far as Liam's real attitude to women is concerned, I'd rather base my opinion on another interview he gave recently where he said that he phones his mum every day, sometimes two or three times a day. And as far as I know Nicole Appleton doesn't have a problem with his attitude to her either. Surely the two women closest to him are better placed to judge his attitude to women than some jumped-up music journalist who can hardly claim to be objective when he's unashamedly ridiculed Liam in the past on this very website.

Now, I'm off to watch The Chase. I've already missed the first part thanks to this frankly ridiculous argument. I can't believe you actually do this shit for a living. I would have thought a professional would be better at it than this.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 5:49pm

In reply to Jeff:

Ok, just to recap: Liam Gallagher is not sexist for using "fucking woman, fucking bitch" as a put down. I'm the misogynist for calling him on it.

That clears it up for me, yup, get back to watching Straw Dogs mate, your work here's done.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 5:51pm

In reply to Jeff:

"I've read the SCUM Manifesto. I've seen Loose Women"

Ha ha ha! OMG - you silly pilchard...

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Spiderwoman
Mar 3, 2011 6:05pm

In reply to John Doran:

No John. Liam is not sexist for calling a man a "fucking woman, fucking bitch" just as you are not sexist for calling a man "cuntish".

I don't know why I'm contributing to this all this idiocy.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 6:27pm

In reply to Spiderwoman:

Sorry I should have said misogynist upthread, the two words are not interchangeable. Misogyny means hatred for women

Liam = using woman to mean someone who is weak, hateful or cowardly. In my opinion, this shows a less than savoury attitude towards women.

Me = calling a guy's behaviour cuntish... well, if you can explain to me how this makes me full of hatred for women, then I'd like to hear it.

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 6:44pm

In reply to Spiderwoman:

Thanks for trying to add a bit of sense to this utterly daft discussion Spiderwoman but it's clear we're dealing with someone who can only think in binary code. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realise they've made a complete tit of themselves and leave the discussion forthwith. I don't know whether it's his inability to follow a coherent argument to its logical conclusion or his self-satisfied smugness that keeps him coming back for more punishment. Probably both.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 7:34pm

In reply to Jeff:

Where did you learn your amazing insights into logic - Loose Women?

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 7:43pm

In reply to John Doran:

Thanks for ignoring my entirely valid point about Liam's mum and wife being better placed to judge his attitude to women than you. Thanks also for ignoring the fact that it was you who brought the words "lazy, untrustworthy, feckless, unreliable and downright cuntish" to this thread, not Liam. How do you know Liam meant any of those adjectives when he called Noel a woman? You don't. You've simply taken your already prejudiced opinion of Liam and put words in his mouth. Somehow I doubt Liam has ever used the word "feckless" in his life. "Oh Noel, you're so feckless". Nope, would never happen. I see you've now added "weak", "hateful" and "cowardly" to the mix. Anything else you want to add to the list of words Liam didn't say but obviously meant, according to you?

Straw Dogs, you say? So now you're bringing rape into the discussion. Classy. And the bit about the SCUM Manifesto and Loose Women wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I've never even heard of Valerie Solanas and Coleen Nolan is actually my mum. Which makes Shane Ritchie my dad, but that's hardly my fault.

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 7:54pm

In reply to Jeff:

Just wonderful projection... keep it going. You're really helping yourself look good here.

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John King
Mar 3, 2011 8:25pm

Forget all this bickering people, I've just heard George Michael is releasing a cover of New Order's True Faith.............ahhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooo(repeat to fade)

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 11:40pm

In reply to John Doran:

So, just to clarify. What you're saying is that Liam hates Noel and therefore all women. He thinks Noel and therefore all women are weak, hateful, cowardly, lazy, untrustworthy, feckless, unreliable and downright cuntish. Even though he never used any of these adjectives himself. Even though he's been in a seemingly stable and happy relationship with the same woman for the last ten years. Even though he obviously despises her. Even though he calls his mum up to three times a day. Even though he obviously despises her too. Even though he's never forgiven his dad for beating up his mum when he was a child. Even though he obviously approves of such behaviour. Even though it's pretty obvious he doesn't hate Noel at all, he's just angry with him. Even though it's pretty obvious he doesn't hate women, he just made a mildly sexist comment that's been blown out of proportion by knobheads determined to paint him as an ogre. Even though Carol McGiffin has said far more sexist things about men on daytime telly but clearly doesn't hate men either cos she's got a toyboy lover who she never stops banging on about. Even though this was a very funny and entertaining interview that has been hijacked by pillocks who actually believe Radiohead are pushing boundaries twenty years after Aphex Twin was routinely belching out music that makes Thom Yorke and co. look like Westlife. Even though one Radiohead fan above called Liam a "mong" and yet none of the people supposedly appalled at Liam's comment bats an eyelid. And I'm the one who's supposedly making myself look bad here? Could the ethos of Quietus be any more fucked up if it tried?

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John Doran
Mar 3, 2011 11:46pm

In reply to Jeff:

News just in! Scientists prove that all misogyny is carried out by men who do not have wives or mothers! Details after the weather.

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Jeff
Mar 3, 2011 11:52pm

In reply to John King:

"Forget all this bickering people, I've just heard George Michael is releasing a cover of New Order's True Faith"

As long as Lenny Kravitz stays the fuck away from Beaver Patrol by Pop Will Eat Itself I'm happy.

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 12:59am

In reply to John Doran:

Thanks Wincey, it's good to have you back. Lovely jumper. Looks like we're in for another chilly one. It's days like these when I'm glad I have ovaries instead of testicles. And finally, the editor of the widely ignored website The Quietus has made a bit of a tit of himself. According to the latest reports he seemingly has no problem with Radiohead fans calling Liam from Beady Eye a "mong" but is supposedly enraged and appalled by a mildly sexist comment from the aforementioned Mancunian singer. The comment produced a heated debate between said editor, John Doran, and a shadowy, faceless Oasis/Beady Eye fan known only as Jeff, a bit like Banksy if he was shit at drawing and liked catchy but derivative rock 'n' roll. While the latter used intelligent, logical and reasoned arguments, with a touch of humour that went above his adversary's head, the former, despite being a supposedly qualified journalist resorted to unintelligent, illogical and lazy responses. He was clearly struggling to recover from the schoolboy error of accusing someone of making a misogynist comment whilst himself resorting to a misogynist comment. In summary, Mr. Doran was ripped a new arse-hole by a supposedly ignorant, uncultured and illiterate Beady Eye fan, who according to Mr. Doran likes watching films by Sam Peckinpah that specifically involve a rape scene, which may or may not feature actual buggery. Quite why this assumption was made when it has literally no relevance to the discussion remains a moot point, although eye-witnesses suggest it was a feeble attempt to make the enigmatic Jeff look like he enjoys watching a young Susan George being sexually assaulted. Jeff is currently consulting his solicitor on this matter. Meanwhile PR guru Max Clifford has turned down a request by Mr. Doran to represent him, saying, "I've worked with suspected murderers, paedophiles and Freddie Starr but I know a hopeless case when I see one." And now the news where you are. Good night.

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Dave
Mar 4, 2011 9:54am

In reply to Jeff:

Amazing. John Doran should give you a job for the quality work you've done here Jeff.

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Dave
Mar 4, 2011 9:56am

oh... and I'm a Radiohead fan by the way.

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Gumba
Mar 4, 2011 11:34am

Love Liam, Love Radiohead, great stuff! Oasis and Radiohead best British bands of the last 20 years. This is a fact.

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SallyTheOneWhoWaits
Mar 4, 2011 11:43am

I think you guys are misinterpreting Liam's use of "acting like a woman". He and Noel have this running insult in which one insinuates that the other is "on his man-period". I'm sure we're all aware that a woman on her period can be terrifying/impossible to deal with/moody, etc, and as there isn't really a male equivalent for this monthly hormonal disaster, it's not such a surprise that men would use that analogy for each other when they're being moody/grouchy/giving the silent treatment (which Noel has frequently been described as doing by Liam). I personally find it funny, and yeah, I happen to be a woman. But I can see how, out of context with his and Noel's other interviews it would seem very sexist.

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John Doran
Mar 4, 2011 12:05pm

In reply to SallyTheOneWhoWaits:

Some points: Sexism and misogyny are not interchangeable. In one short sentence it was flagged up that he used sadly misogynist language becase... and I'm trying to say this as slowly as possible for Jeff... this is what it is. If you want to hurt someone and then the insult you come up with is "a fucking woman, a fucking bitch", then this is misogyny. And it doesn't matter what a sound bloke he is or how he phones his mum three times a day or whatever, this is what it is. Me acusing him of cuntish behaviour, no matter how you try and twist it, just isn't.

And I'd avoided saying this up until now: I don't give a fucking shit who's said what in the comment features becuase Bob the Radiohead fan isn't a massively influential rock star, you fucking dim witted bellend! Personally, yes, I find both statements very offensive but how much influence is this guy going to have on the way people think one way or the other? Absolutely zero. (No offence Radiohead guy.)

Now, this isn't me looking for some extended barney on this matter - we're already well into a five figure number for clicks on this piece and the debate alone was worth my decision to leave his cuntish, yes CUNTISH use of language in the piece.

Great work by Jeff on supplying himself with a praise worthy running commentary though. But like I say, I'm happy to have anyone here. Just so you know we had about 250,000 unique users and 750,000 page impressions in the last month but we're still a long way off NME.com so keep on clicking dole drawing Oasis fans with nothing better to do!

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Dave
Mar 4, 2011 1:05pm

In reply to John Doran:

You're all a bunch of big girls blouses!

oops!... it's as simple as that.

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 3:36pm

In reply to John Doran:

I like you just the way you are / Drunk as shit dancing at the bar / I like it, and I can't wait to get you home so I can do some damage / I like you just the way you are / Drunk in the back seat of my car / Cos I like it, and I can't wait to get you home so I can take advantage

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 3:40pm

In reply to John Doran:

Gonna write a song so she can see / Give her all the love she gives to me / Talk of better days that have yet to come / Never felt this love from anyone / She's not anyone / She's not anyone / She's not anyone

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 3:55pm

In reply to John Doran:

Above are excerpts of lyrics from two silly love songs. One is written by Liam Gallagher about his partner Nicole Appleton. The other is written by Brian McFadden about his partner Delta Goodrem. One of these men clearly respects women, the other doesn't. I'll let you work out which is which. It's not difficult.

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 4:15pm

In reply to John Doran:

"Some points: Sexism and misogyny are not interchangeable. In one short sentence it was flagged up that he used sadly misogynist language becase... and I'm trying to say this as slowly as possible for Jeff... this is what it is. If you want to hurt someone and then the insult you come up with is "a fucking woman, a fucking bitch", then this is misogyny. And it doesn't matter what a sound bloke he is or how he phones his mum three times a day or whatever, this is what it is. Me acusing him of cuntish behaviour, no matter how you try and twist it, just isn't."

You can't even get the quote right let alone the interpretation. Are you sure you're a qualified journalist? I realise standards have slipped since the glory days, but fuck me.

"And I'd avoided saying this up until now: I don't give a fucking shit who's said what in the comment features becuase Bob the Radiohead fan isn't a massively influential rock star, you fucking dim witted bellend! Personally, yes, I find both statements very offensive but how much influence is this guy going to have on the way people think one way or the other? Absolutely zero."

So it's perfectly okay to use offensive terms on thequietus.com as long as you're not famous. Brilliant. That's a sure way to raise the standard of readership. Or is it all about the numbers?

"(No offence Radiohead guy.)"

Classic. You couldn't make this shit up.

"Now, this isn't me looking for some extended barney on this matter - we're already well into a five figure number for clicks on this piece and the debate alone was worth my decision to leave his cuntish, yes CUNTISH use of language in the piece."

I asked my mother what she thought of the word "cunt" as an insult. She said she found it highly offensive. And she's Coleen Nolan. 'Nuff said.

"Great work by Jeff on supplying himself with a praise worthy running commentary though. But like I say, I'm happy to have anyone here. Just so you know we had about 250,000 unique users and 750,000 page impressions in the last month but we're still a long way off NME.com so keep on clicking dole drawing Oasis fans with nothing better to do!"

It really is all about the numbers. Forget the quality, feel the bandwidth. Shameless. Utterly shameless.

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John Doran
Mar 4, 2011 6:19pm

In reply to Jeff:

There's a delicious irony to an Oasis fan complaining about someone bending over backwards to reach the widest market possible. Plus it isn't a binary. The Quietus is a good website but we do want it read by a large amount of people. We don't see ourselves as the online successor to Sniffin' Glue or Careless Talk Costs Lives or Zig Zag.

We're what Q magazine should be like.

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Nate Johnson
Mar 4, 2011 9:10pm

Liam Gallagher is one of those arrogant idiots that i love to make fun of. god he has no talent.

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Jeff
Mar 4, 2011 9:56pm

In reply to John Doran:

Who taught you the concept of irony? Morris Minor and the fucking Morissettes? I'm sorry to break this to you but "ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife" isn't irony, it's just fucking bad luck. A bit like the day you decided to celebrate the passing of Oasis like an utter knob, thus fueling my fire to show you up for the feeble-minded cretin that you are. I'll tell you what delicious irony is. It's you, a supposedly qualified journalist, being ripped a new arse-hole and shafted with a rolled up copy of Woman's Weekly by a humble Oasis fan. Or as your lovely partner in crap Luke Turner would charmingly call me, "a stupid, idiotic man, willing to never look beyond the next football match, next pint of weak lager, next pathetic, dribbling wank over some unfortunate suburban girl with her legs splayed in Razzle." It's a wonder I can even type my name without opposable thumbs, eh Luke? Nevermind point out that if I described the average Suede fan as "a poofy, limp-wristed man, willing to never look beyond the next episode of Glee, next glass of Pink Lady, next seedy blowjob in a public toilet with a former member of Wham! who isn't Andrew Ridgeley" I'd rightly be called homophobic. So why is the reverse acceptable? Believe it or not there are Oasis fans who actually like Erasure and the Pet Shop Boys. I know it's unbelievable to you but it's true. I'm one of 'em. I also like football. The two are not mutually exclusive. If you like Oasis you don't automatically hate everything that might be a bit gay. Next time you feel like describing Oasis fans as an indistinguishable mass of sweaty heterosexual neanderthals I suggest you think again. Cos it makes you look like a right pillock. Now, back to you John. The reason there is no irony involved in an Oasis fan calling you out on your shameless quest for more hits at the expense of standards is simple. Oasis said from the very beginning that they wanted to be the biggest band in the world. They never made bold claims to be for "intelligent music fans". They never pandered to music critics to get better reviews. They never sucked corporate cock to make it big in America. They had an objective and they achieved it, albeit for a very brief period. But that's what happens when you have integrity and don't sell your soul. However, in your blurb you make claims to be about quality and intelligent journalism. How was that crap article celebrating Oasis' demise in anyway quality or intelligent journalism? It was like something a spotty sixth-form Bloc Party fan would write in green crayon and post to IPC Towers thinking he's gonna be the next Morrissey. Quality and intelligent journalism, my arse. That kind of shit would be rejected by the Daily Star.

"We're what Q magazine should be like."

No, you're what Pitchfork would be like if they had less readers, less influence and even tossier writers. Frankly, the world of music would be a much better place if neither of you existed.

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John Doran
Mar 4, 2011 10:01pm

In reply to Jeff:

Oh dear! I think someone's been drinking and is a bit tired and emotional...

Do you need a hug?

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Drunk
Mar 5, 2011 1:43am

liam really is funny... at best.

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Mar 5, 2011 3:46pm

the truth of that matter is that while the Gallaghers contribution to music is arguably very important (though very much in the past), artistically they have never even scratched the surface of what Radiohead have achieved in just about the same amount of time. While his music will continously find decreasing interest people will still continue to read Liam Gallaghers interviews for cheap entertainment like this haha

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Shiv4
Mar 5, 2011 4:44pm

I'm enjoying the Album. Calling some someone a woman isn't a huge insult

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Rooster
Mar 6, 2011 6:23pm

Someone needs to punch Liam out like that guy who knocked his brother out awhile back did. I'd pay to see that.

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chris
Mar 7, 2011 1:11am

In reply to Mark:

mark Radiohead haven't made a good album in 10 years.

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Cygnis
Mar 7, 2011 9:11am

"I fight cynicism. It's too easy. It's really boring. It's much harder to be positive and see the wonder of everything. Cynicism is a bunch of people who aren't as talented as other people, knocking them because they make them feel even more untalented."
~Ewan McGregor

SHADDAP YA CYNICS. Liam & Co. are bringing their own brand of joy to the world, which is much more than any of you are doing. Being negative doesn't make you cool. It makes you dull and unattractive.

I am eagerly awaiting the Beady Eye US tour!

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John Doran
Mar 7, 2011 9:58am

In reply to Cygnis:

Hi Cygnis, for the record, the Quietus has published, for my money the best feature on Oasis written in the last ten years: What Next For Noel Gallagher by John Tatlock. http://thequietus.com/articles/02621-oasis-split-what-next-for-noel-gallager

And people seem to be overlooking the fact that I had to bend over backwards to make sure we got a very positive piece on Liam last week.

The arguing in the comments doesn't matter. Only idiots argue on message boards/comments sections. And I include myself in that.

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DVSDen
Mar 7, 2011 8:33pm

I just read Liam's comments on greenplastic.com. I am not surprised that he disses radiohead and I am not going to go into a long defense of a supbar album TKOL. However, I heard Beady Eye and almost felt the estate of John Lennon should sue this prick. Seriously, it sounds like Plastic Ono band with better sound and makes even the 90's Oasis sound original. There is a reason why the Gallagher boys have had little North American success since 1996 - no one likes egotistical pricks who put on half-assed 60 min shows and then slag off the audience when they complain. Americans have a lot more options to spend their entertainment $$ on than our Euro friends, so you better be good live if you want to stay in the game here.
Radiohead filled amphitheatres all over the country including the midwest and south in 2003 and 2008 with little airplay apart from Sattelite and college radio. The last Oasis NA tour, like their album, was a freakin joke. I am amazed that the country that gave the world Zep, Queen, Floyd, Sabbath, Maiden, Clash, Who, and of course the Beatles would be inthralled with these talentless clowns.

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Stavros P. Leibowitz
Mar 7, 2011 11:33pm

In reply to DVSDen:

In Gallagher's defence - now there are words I never thought I'd say - he makes explicit his band's limitations: they're not doing anything original but what they do they do it well. That's not quite true as the album contains about only four good songs. Which three more than the Radiohead which is tuneless bilge of the highest order. Since OK Computer, Radiohead have struggled to come up with anything as enjoyable and have peddled sub-Warp nonsense to people who don't know better. And here's what Oasis and Radiohead have in common: both bands would just about be able to cobble together a decent album made up of post Morning Glory and OK Computer material. Say it ain't so...

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Pasha K
Mar 8, 2011 8:53pm

I guess Sir Liam is jealous that Thom Yorke's songs are far cooler than those he has written himself? Oh wait a minute, he hasn't written any! Tosser.

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DVSDen
Mar 9, 2011 2:07am

In reply to Stavros P. Leibowitz:

Your comments are not unusual in stating that Radiohead's music has declined since the 1990's. At least they are not playing the exact same stuff as they did 15 years ago, ala the Gallaghers. My fav album personally is 'Hail to the theif', so to each his own. According to the NME poll of fans casting their ballots for their 20 fav Radiohead songs, exactly half are 1990's Radiohead and the other half 2000's Radiohead, although the top 5 is weighted towards 'Bends' and 'OKC'. Seems like among the true fans, the later RH music is just fine.
http://www.nme.com/ratemy/205335/greatest-radiohead-tracks

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Ryan
Mar 11, 2011 9:57pm

This album is boring. And after Liam's funny quip about Radiohead, it made me think of this quote:

"There's only 12 power chords, and I think we've had about 20 years of them, so maybe it's time to move on, aye?" -Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead's guitarist)

Gee Liam, maybe you should learn some new chord voicings so your music isn't so boring.

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Jasmine
Mar 15, 2011 8:14pm

In reply to Jon:

That's hardly an excuse to wish death on someone...sure Liam does some outlandish things at times, and he isn't always the most original artist, but that's irrelivant to whether someone should be alive or not. Personally, I think women-beaters such as Charlie Sheen or Chris Brown would be more suited to statements like that...at least Liam doesn't mince his words or put on a facade for the media, and to be fair alot of people have enjoyed his voice on records over the years, so I'm sure many would disagree...

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Joebloeshiit
Apr 21, 2011 2:01am

In reply to Jon:

Shame on you, if you can see when you have the best artist since john lennon, go buy yourself some eyes, shame on you, hes a fuckin badass and he makes some fuckin good music so dont comme and tell us hes an asshole, cause hes not, and you are

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